Posted on Sep 8, 2019
Air Force Reportedly Orders Sweeping Probe Into Military Spending at Trump's Scotland Resort
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Ok Ok OK...I read all of this and they did nothing wrong. They were crew resting there which is required by regulations. They booked their rooms under the Defense Travel System which is required, the rooms were under the allowable rate which saved the Governement money, and they were the ONLY ROOMS AVAILABLE for the night they were there that met the requirements even though they were 54 miles away from the airport. There were no special treatments, no special arrangements...everything was done above board and within DoD Travel regulations. Nothing to see here...move along folks.
Maj Marty Hogan
Lt Col Charlie Brown
1stSgt Glenn Brackin
Cpl Craig Morton
SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth
COL Mikel J. Burroughs
LTC Stephen C.
CPL Dave Hoover
PO3 Bob McCord
Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen
Sgt Wayne Wood
PVT James Strait
SFC Jack Champion
MSgt David Hoffman
MSgt Stephen Council
SGT Elizabeth Scheck
PO1 H Gene Lawrence
SPC Jon O.
TSgt Joe C.
Maj Marty Hogan
Lt Col Charlie Brown
1stSgt Glenn Brackin
Cpl Craig Morton
SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth
COL Mikel J. Burroughs
LTC Stephen C.
CPL Dave Hoover
PO3 Bob McCord
Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen
Sgt Wayne Wood
PVT James Strait
SFC Jack Champion
MSgt David Hoffman
MSgt Stephen Council
SGT Elizabeth Scheck
PO1 H Gene Lawrence
SPC Jon O.
TSgt Joe C.
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Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin
MSG Stan Hutchison you can stop holding your breath in anticipation of something connected to Trump and/or Airmen acting unethically. Case closed.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/air-force-deal-with-airport-turnberry
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/air-force-deal-with-airport-turnberry
Air Force deal to refuel near Trump’s Scottish resort reportedly signed under Obama
The controversial arrangement by the U.S. Air Forceto refuel at a Scottishairport near President Trump’s Turnberry golf resort apparently was signedunder the Obama administration, according to multiple reports.
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MSG Stan Hutchison
Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin -
From the article:
"Earlier this week, the Air Force launched a review of its selection of lodging accommodations at the Trump Turnberry resort in Scotland, acknowledging that it “might be allowable but not advisable.”"
I never claimed is might be illegal but I do believe it is unethical.
Of course, Trump does not understand the meaning of the word.
From the article:
"Earlier this week, the Air Force launched a review of its selection of lodging accommodations at the Trump Turnberry resort in Scotland, acknowledging that it “might be allowable but not advisable.”"
I never claimed is might be illegal but I do believe it is unethical.
Of course, Trump does not understand the meaning of the word.
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Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin
And this week they've release the information from their investigation... From the article I posted it states:
“We reviewed the vast majority of the 659 overnight stays of Air Force crews in the vicinity at Glasgow Prestwick Airport between 2015 and 2019. Approximately six percent of those crews stayed at the Trump Turnberry,” the statement from an Air Force official said. “As a practice, we generally send aircrews to the closest, most suitable accommodations within the government hotel rate. The review also indicated that about 75 percent of the crews stayed in the immediate vicinity of the airfield and 18 percent stayed in Glasgow.”
Now, I'm not aware of a feature in DTS where it asks, "is this a Trump owned hotel, yes/no"... "Yes? Well, that would not be advisable due to "optics."" They picked that hotel because there were no other choices which met the requirements within a closer proximity of the airport. The deal with the airport and the hotel stays occurred before Trump ever ran for or became president. But you will never let it go because it's all about criticizing Trump. You got your AF investigation... Case closed. Nothing to see here but the unhinged who have to find fault with Trump for no better reason than the sake of doing it.
“We reviewed the vast majority of the 659 overnight stays of Air Force crews in the vicinity at Glasgow Prestwick Airport between 2015 and 2019. Approximately six percent of those crews stayed at the Trump Turnberry,” the statement from an Air Force official said. “As a practice, we generally send aircrews to the closest, most suitable accommodations within the government hotel rate. The review also indicated that about 75 percent of the crews stayed in the immediate vicinity of the airfield and 18 percent stayed in Glasgow.”
Now, I'm not aware of a feature in DTS where it asks, "is this a Trump owned hotel, yes/no"... "Yes? Well, that would not be advisable due to "optics."" They picked that hotel because there were no other choices which met the requirements within a closer proximity of the airport. The deal with the airport and the hotel stays occurred before Trump ever ran for or became president. But you will never let it go because it's all about criticizing Trump. You got your AF investigation... Case closed. Nothing to see here but the unhinged who have to find fault with Trump for no better reason than the sake of doing it.
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1. The Air Force increased flights through there back in 2015. Who was President then?
2. The President had no idea this is happening and has nothing to do with it.
3. The Air Force picked this location due to the minimal traffic and 24 hr operations.
4. The aircrew found the hotel at the per diem rate and followed the JTR requirements.
5. The decision to use a Trump hotel, regardless of whether other hotels are available is their choice, so long as they are meeting the JTR and it fits the mission requirements while trying to be good stewards of the tax payer money. Hatred toward Trump is not a legitimate reason to ban government officials from using a Trump hotel.
6. This is once again a feeble attempt to criticize Trump for no better reason than to find something which fits their perceptions about him and their own narratives.
2. The President had no idea this is happening and has nothing to do with it.
3. The Air Force picked this location due to the minimal traffic and 24 hr operations.
4. The aircrew found the hotel at the per diem rate and followed the JTR requirements.
5. The decision to use a Trump hotel, regardless of whether other hotels are available is their choice, so long as they are meeting the JTR and it fits the mission requirements while trying to be good stewards of the tax payer money. Hatred toward Trump is not a legitimate reason to ban government officials from using a Trump hotel.
6. This is once again a feeble attempt to criticize Trump for no better reason than to find something which fits their perceptions about him and their own narratives.
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One crew member was so struck by the choice of hotel — markedly different than the Marriotts and Hiltons the 176th maintenance squadron is used to — that he texted someone close to him and told him about the stay, sending a photo and noting that the crew’s per diem allowance wasn’t enough to cover food and drinks at the ritzy resort.
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Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin
I'm calling BS on that one... Per Diem is ~$85 Meal and Incidentals there. I went ahead and looked at the menu of one of the on site restaurants (which he doesn't have to use by the way). He could have easily come in at or under his per diem (plenty of options under 15 Euros) unless he decided to go with lobster at 55 Euros a person.
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MAJ Ken Landgren
Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin - I would like to see if there is a total cost advantage to include fuel for the stays in Scotland.
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Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin
MAJ Ken Landgren That’s irrelevant. This whole issue was brought up to criticize Trump (not saying you). In the end, the facts do not fit that narrative. Trump had nothing to do with it, the deal was set up before he even announced his run for President, and the Airmen acted responsibly. Now if you want to criticize the Air Force for using this location based on cost analysis, have at it. But I recommend you come up with facts and figures vs using speculation. Take note of the UK’s 24 hr operational hours locations and their quiet hour laws in certain locations.
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