Posted on Aug 7, 2024
VP Pick Tim Walz Pushed To Close Gitmo and House Terrorists in US
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In 2021: " Dozens of U.S. House of Representatives Democrats, including the leaders of the Armed Services, Foreign Affairs and Intelligence Committees, called on President Joe Biden on Thursday to immediately close the military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
Weeks before the 20th anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks, which helped lead to the prison's opening, the 75 lawmakers sent a letter calling the prison's continued operation a stain on the country's reputation that undermines its ability to advocate for human rights and the rule of law."
So if 75 members of the House wanted to close it...why is it weird he wanted to close it? Nothing came from having anyone detained there. Torture doesn't result in actionable intelligence. It's rarely helpful. People who are tortured will lie to stop the torture. Add in the amount of people who were wrongly accused and detained (and tortured) there who had no link to terror groups. Such as this person:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/aug/16/guantanamo-detainee-mansoor-adayfi
"Adayfi was part of a detainee population that was thought to be largely innocent. A startling 86% of detainees at Guantánamo were captured after the US distributed flyers in Pakistan and Afghanistan offering huge bounties for “suspicious people”. Many were handed over by rival farmers. Only 8% of inmates were thought to be al-Qaida fighters.
But prison officials didn’t care.
“When we went on hunger strike, they called it jihad. Like we could bring down this superpower with nuclear weapons just with our hunger strike!” he laughs. “In order to survive at Guantánamo, you have to have a sense of humor.”
Adayfi was thought to be one of the most dangerous prisoners. Lawyers were advised against working with him, and notes written by interrogators called him the “worst of the worst”. He became the much feared “Detainee 441”, not because of his terrorist sympathies, but because of the years he spent organizing detainees to fight for better rights; gaining media attention through hunger strikes and causing chaos in the prison when his fellow inmates were mistreated."
It's been reported for years most of the detainees there had zero terror ties and, like this says, were given up by people who wanted to get the money the US offered.
Gitmo has been useless and has done nothing but been 20+ years of the US justifying torture. For no reason. Then again the US loves to wrongfully convict POC and steal decades of their lives too...so not surprised.
Weeks before the 20th anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks, which helped lead to the prison's opening, the 75 lawmakers sent a letter calling the prison's continued operation a stain on the country's reputation that undermines its ability to advocate for human rights and the rule of law."
So if 75 members of the House wanted to close it...why is it weird he wanted to close it? Nothing came from having anyone detained there. Torture doesn't result in actionable intelligence. It's rarely helpful. People who are tortured will lie to stop the torture. Add in the amount of people who were wrongly accused and detained (and tortured) there who had no link to terror groups. Such as this person:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/aug/16/guantanamo-detainee-mansoor-adayfi
"Adayfi was part of a detainee population that was thought to be largely innocent. A startling 86% of detainees at Guantánamo were captured after the US distributed flyers in Pakistan and Afghanistan offering huge bounties for “suspicious people”. Many were handed over by rival farmers. Only 8% of inmates were thought to be al-Qaida fighters.
But prison officials didn’t care.
“When we went on hunger strike, they called it jihad. Like we could bring down this superpower with nuclear weapons just with our hunger strike!” he laughs. “In order to survive at Guantánamo, you have to have a sense of humor.”
Adayfi was thought to be one of the most dangerous prisoners. Lawyers were advised against working with him, and notes written by interrogators called him the “worst of the worst”. He became the much feared “Detainee 441”, not because of his terrorist sympathies, but because of the years he spent organizing detainees to fight for better rights; gaining media attention through hunger strikes and causing chaos in the prison when his fellow inmates were mistreated."
It's been reported for years most of the detainees there had zero terror ties and, like this says, were given up by people who wanted to get the money the US offered.
Gitmo has been useless and has done nothing but been 20+ years of the US justifying torture. For no reason. Then again the US loves to wrongfully convict POC and steal decades of their lives too...so not surprised.
‘The US should be held accountable’: Guantánamo survivor on the war on terror’s failure
After endless years during which he was routinely tortured, Mansoor Adayfi, who now lives in Serbia, asks: ‘What if that had been American boys?’
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We should have closed the prison at Gitmo long ago.
And, ALL humans should be treated humanly.
Shut down the prison, bring the inmates to the US and give them a trail. Convict them and lock them up.
(I cannot believe we are still arguing about this after 23 years. )
And, ALL humans should be treated humanly.
Shut down the prison, bring the inmates to the US and give them a trail. Convict them and lock them up.
(I cannot believe we are still arguing about this after 23 years. )
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