Posted on Dec 14, 2022
50 Florida teachers, staff quit following surge in violent, 'egregious' student behavior –...
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What comes from parental failure to discipline children
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Violent, disrespectful, and "egregious" behavior from students in one Florida school district has led 50 teachers and staff to resign in the last two years, the New York Post reported.
At a Thursday school board meeting at Brevard County School District, administrators shed light on the disturbing behaviors that have likely led to the staggering number of teacher and bus driver resignations.
Matthew Yount, a fifth-grade teacher at Imperial Estates Elementary School, noted some of the "egregious behaviors" he witnessed, including spitting, biting, drug use, and theft.
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Violent, disrespectful, and "egregious" behavior from students in one Florida school district has led 50 teachers and staff to resign in the last two years, the New York Post reported.
At a Thursday school board meeting at Brevard County School District, administrators shed light on the disturbing behaviors that have likely led to the staggering number of teacher and bus driver resignations.
Matthew Yount, a fifth-grade teacher at Imperial Estates Elementary School, noted some of the "egregious behaviors" he witnessed, including spitting, biting, drug use, and theft.
50 Florida teachers, staff quit following surge in violent, 'egregious' student behavior –...
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This is not a school issue but a parental issue. When I was in school I didn't act up becasue back then it didn't matter what color you were or where you came from, you were held accountable...anything from writing lines, standing in the corner to a spanking...or worse for me cause I played football and if I acted out they told my coach and he ran it out of me at practice...guess what you didn't do it again! If a parent was called God help you. They would whoop you at the school especially if they had to leave work to deal with your bad self. My best friend in life is a minority and one day his mom was called to school for his behavior, guess what she whooped me to cause I was with him and I didn't do anything...my parents thanked her.
Now if a parent is called it isn't little Johnnies fault...we lost power last night and he didn't get toplay fortnight so he is a little upset. You can't put little Johnnie inthe corner cause that would hurt his self esteem. Not my little Johnnie...he would never do that...or the best one yet...half the class failed an exam so apparently the teacher didn't teach it right. My wife is a teacher and I hear this crap all the time. THis everybody getsa trophy and no accountability crap is just wrong. There is no excuse for spitting, biting, drug use, or fighting. There is a reason I am not a teacher...I would end up in jail.
Now if a parent is called it isn't little Johnnies fault...we lost power last night and he didn't get toplay fortnight so he is a little upset. You can't put little Johnnie inthe corner cause that would hurt his self esteem. Not my little Johnnie...he would never do that...or the best one yet...half the class failed an exam so apparently the teacher didn't teach it right. My wife is a teacher and I hear this crap all the time. THis everybody getsa trophy and no accountability crap is just wrong. There is no excuse for spitting, biting, drug use, or fighting. There is a reason I am not a teacher...I would end up in jail.
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SFC Casey O'Mally
It is both. As demonstrated by this article, SJWs continue to argue against any form of accountability at school. Many schools even have policies which prevent parent notification for "minor" infractions.
Yes, parents should ABSOLUTELY be handling business. But whether they do or not, the school should be allowed to handle business. Whether that is suspension, detention, or outright expulsion, the school needs to be able to use their tools. Including have SROs arrest students who assault staff.
Yes, there should be an element of leniency for kids because they are kids. But a kid who is throwing furniture needs to face the music.
I say this as a kid who threw furniture at his teacher in school. And my 6 year old butt got arrested (before there was even such a thing as SROs; they had to call a unit in to school). No charges were filed, but it scared the crap out of me. I didn't have the cops called on me for another 5 years. And I got arrested and put in a mental facility that time.
Plus I had any number of detentions and a couple of suspensions.
And, aside from that one time in 2nd grade, I never did anything all that bad.
Today, we can't even "run it out of them" because "excessive exercise" is abuse. And the only way to find out where the line for "excessive" can be found is to get arrested and let the judge decide. So no one is willing to even get close to where the line MIGHT be, because with no objective standard, no one wants to be pleading their case before the judge.
Writing lines is just refused, as is standing in a corner. And when the student refuses, what then? According to the NAACP, that just means Johnny needs therapy. Punishment would be inappropriate.
Of course kids act up at school. They have absolutely no reason not to.
Yes, parents should ABSOLUTELY be handling business. But whether they do or not, the school should be allowed to handle business. Whether that is suspension, detention, or outright expulsion, the school needs to be able to use their tools. Including have SROs arrest students who assault staff.
Yes, there should be an element of leniency for kids because they are kids. But a kid who is throwing furniture needs to face the music.
I say this as a kid who threw furniture at his teacher in school. And my 6 year old butt got arrested (before there was even such a thing as SROs; they had to call a unit in to school). No charges were filed, but it scared the crap out of me. I didn't have the cops called on me for another 5 years. And I got arrested and put in a mental facility that time.
Plus I had any number of detentions and a couple of suspensions.
And, aside from that one time in 2nd grade, I never did anything all that bad.
Today, we can't even "run it out of them" because "excessive exercise" is abuse. And the only way to find out where the line for "excessive" can be found is to get arrested and let the judge decide. So no one is willing to even get close to where the line MIGHT be, because with no objective standard, no one wants to be pleading their case before the judge.
Writing lines is just refused, as is standing in a corner. And when the student refuses, what then? According to the NAACP, that just means Johnny needs therapy. Punishment would be inappropriate.
Of course kids act up at school. They have absolutely no reason not to.
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CPL Douglas Chrysler
I got an email from a young tenant the other day with a complaint that a neighbor was looking at her when she walked to the garage.
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Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth
CPL Douglas Chrysler - WOW. I had a first sergeant one time that told me he was working with two women that despised each other. One of them came to him and said she called me a bitch...He asked her did she really say that...she responded well, no not verbally but she said it with her eyes! He responded wel when that shit comes out of her mouth come back and see me.
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I'm sorry to those who disagree, but Dr. Spock was full of it. We didn't have the outrageous crap outlined in the article going on in school when I was a kid because the punishment for that behavior was swift, immediate, and unpleasant. Behave and be ok. Misbehave and pay for it. This modern "hands off" approach to discipline has brought our society to where it is now- a cadre of spoiled, weak, self-absorbed fools that demand personal accommodation for anything and a participation trophy for everything. I don't care what your political bent is- you cannot tell me that what has been happening in our degraded families, and disintegrating schools is not directly proportional to the proliferation of Dewey and 'progressive education' that has been inflicted on society at nearly every level and is now pervasive throughout the military establishment, all branches. Not to mention the fact that our Judeo-Christian traditions and culture that so long upheld the framework for a healthy society have been reduced to post-modern cultural whipping boys/punching bags. We are headed toward a cliff at increasing speed with no signs of stopping. God help us...
And like it or not, there it this- there is an inarguable linear connection between the poorly-considered and ill-advised SCOTUS decision to boot prayer out of public schools and the fetid swamp that is public education today. There. I said it.
And like it or not, there it this- there is an inarguable linear connection between the poorly-considered and ill-advised SCOTUS decision to boot prayer out of public schools and the fetid swamp that is public education today. There. I said it.
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Cpl Vic Burk
SSG Ted Strachan You would be hard pressed to find a teacher who disagrees with you! And to think this is what is going to be leading our country in the future. God help us.
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SFC Casey O'Mally
TL; DR: It isn't the prayer or Judeo-Christianity, per se, but rather what they represent.
I think the problem comes with the difference between "of" and "from".
We are supposed to have freedom of religion. One of the primary functions or religion, societally, is to provide both a moral framework for individuals to operate within, as well as to provide a sense of cosmic judgment for those who chose not to.
Bear in mind, I am speaking SOCIETALLY here, not THEOLOGICALLY.
Whether it is God, YHWH, karma, Allah, Shiva the Destroyer, or some other cosmic force or entity, every religion has a source of accountability who will punish you for your transgressions. This cosmic bogeyman supercedes human laws and notice. So even if you can get away with something, and no one will be the wiser, *God* knows - and will punish you.
This serves as a powerful check on aberrant behavior. After all, no one wants to spend eternity wailing and gnashing their teeth or reincarnated as a dung beetle.
So... pick your religion, but gosh darnit PICK ONE. Instead, we have decided to replace freedom OF religion with freedom FROM religion. As more and more people move away from cosmic accountability, we are left with only human accountability.
The other benefit of cosmic accountability is that it is (theoretically) perfect. Human accountability, however, is DEEPLY flawed. Literally everyone I know who can drive exceeds the speed limit, myself included. Even my 74 year old blue haired father who uses a walker to get to the car. Why? Because we know that as long as we don't go TOO fast, we won't be pulled over. Even if we are, we aren't guaranteed to get a ticket. Even if we get a ticket, we might be able to fight it. Even if we lose, the penalty is not a big deal. No incentive not to speed, because human accountability fails - regularly.
But cosmic accountability? That never fails (theoretically). But if we destroy religion and remove cosmic accountability, now there is NO accountability to fear. And with no accountability, there is no incentive to do right.
And yes, I know atheists can point to any number of religious people who have done horrible things. And they claim they do not need God to make them act right. On an INDIVIDUAL level, this is true. On a SOCIETAL level, not so much. There is a reason "godless society" is generally held to be synonymous (or at least closely related to) "dystopian hellscape."
I think the problem comes with the difference between "of" and "from".
We are supposed to have freedom of religion. One of the primary functions or religion, societally, is to provide both a moral framework for individuals to operate within, as well as to provide a sense of cosmic judgment for those who chose not to.
Bear in mind, I am speaking SOCIETALLY here, not THEOLOGICALLY.
Whether it is God, YHWH, karma, Allah, Shiva the Destroyer, or some other cosmic force or entity, every religion has a source of accountability who will punish you for your transgressions. This cosmic bogeyman supercedes human laws and notice. So even if you can get away with something, and no one will be the wiser, *God* knows - and will punish you.
This serves as a powerful check on aberrant behavior. After all, no one wants to spend eternity wailing and gnashing their teeth or reincarnated as a dung beetle.
So... pick your religion, but gosh darnit PICK ONE. Instead, we have decided to replace freedom OF religion with freedom FROM religion. As more and more people move away from cosmic accountability, we are left with only human accountability.
The other benefit of cosmic accountability is that it is (theoretically) perfect. Human accountability, however, is DEEPLY flawed. Literally everyone I know who can drive exceeds the speed limit, myself included. Even my 74 year old blue haired father who uses a walker to get to the car. Why? Because we know that as long as we don't go TOO fast, we won't be pulled over. Even if we are, we aren't guaranteed to get a ticket. Even if we get a ticket, we might be able to fight it. Even if we lose, the penalty is not a big deal. No incentive not to speed, because human accountability fails - regularly.
But cosmic accountability? That never fails (theoretically). But if we destroy religion and remove cosmic accountability, now there is NO accountability to fear. And with no accountability, there is no incentive to do right.
And yes, I know atheists can point to any number of religious people who have done horrible things. And they claim they do not need God to make them act right. On an INDIVIDUAL level, this is true. On a SOCIETAL level, not so much. There is a reason "godless society" is generally held to be synonymous (or at least closely related to) "dystopian hellscape."
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In my opinion, children's behavioral patterns should formulated with parental engagement and discussion! However, this
collaboration seems to be lacking! Resulting in the kids having a lack of respect and dignity as a part of their conscious display of behavior!
collaboration seems to be lacking! Resulting in the kids having a lack of respect and dignity as a part of their conscious display of behavior!
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