Posted on Aug 25, 2022
US weapons package for Ukraine stresses long-haul commitment
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I say this is the easiest and cheapest way to deal with the Russia problem. Any fraud, waste and abuse is a comparatively cheap price to pay.
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MAJ Montgomery Granger
Respectfully, I don't see a Russian problem. For over 500 years up until 1991, Ukraine was part of Russia/Soviet Union. Since then only strife, as ethnic Russians, trapped in Ukraine, became third class citizens, not even allowed to speak Russian in public. No one gave a hoot about Russia reclaiming Crimea in 2014. Why now all the politics and strife over Russia wanting to reclaim two eastern, majority ethnic Russian provinces and get guarantees from Ukraine about not joining NATO - a Russophobic money laundering conglomerate run by the military industrial complex. Ukraine cannot "win" a war against Russia, with or without our help. It's a money pit.
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SPC Kevin Ford
MAJ Montgomery Granger - Yes, and the Sudetenland is full of Germans and should be part of Germany. :)
Putin has no intention of stopping with Ukraine, he wants to restore the Soviet republics and restart the cold war. From our perspective, Ukraine doesn't need to win this war, just stop Russia's expansionist ambitions. In that respect our helping Ukraine has been very successful. We are dismantling Russia's ability to project military power in detail.
People did car about Crimea in 2014. We, and more importantly Ukraine, were not in a position to do anything about it in 2014 and we didn't fully realize the extent of Putin's ambitions.
Putin has no intention of stopping with Ukraine, he wants to restore the Soviet republics and restart the cold war. From our perspective, Ukraine doesn't need to win this war, just stop Russia's expansionist ambitions. In that respect our helping Ukraine has been very successful. We are dismantling Russia's ability to project military power in detail.
People did car about Crimea in 2014. We, and more importantly Ukraine, were not in a position to do anything about it in 2014 and we didn't fully realize the extent of Putin's ambitions.
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This is rarely mentioned. We have sent an Army Corps HQ to Poland with 600 staffers, I have no doubt they are helping Ukraine in many ways. Ukraine is the proving ground for many of the current military technology. Desert Storm was the same.
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MAJ Montgomery Granger
This constitutes a proxy war. Sending arms, ammo, advisors is tantamount to war. As the Chinese did against us in Korea and Vietnam, so too are we guilty now of interfering in regional conflict where before we had no strategic interest. For 500 years before 1991, Ukraine was part of Russia/Soviet Union. When the Soviet Union was broken up, many ethnic Russians were trapped in Ukraine under direct oppression of former Nazi sympathizers. In 2014, Obama & Co. did NOTHING when Russia liberated Crimea. For years after that, Russia and Ukraine were in a hot war over majority ethnic Russian provinces in the east. Still no commitment from NATO or the US for protection or support of Ukraine. What changed? Money laundering and corruption schemes between the US (Obama/Biden) and Ukraine. "Fire the prosecutor" was the smoking gun everyone just laughed about. Now, those chickens are coming home to roost, with more arms and ammo sent to Ukraine than they could use in a hundred years, a steady supply of black market money laundering between the military industrial complex, Congress, the White House, NATO and Ukraine. All political kabuki, and we are left holding the bill.
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