New York moves to ban concealed guns in many places, including Times Square - NewsBreak

SFC Jason Werstak I don't disagree with your thoughts. Ultimately the government will infringe on our rights, they always do.

MAJ Byron Oyler can education is always a thing as long as the government isn't overseeing the training. The training will become more about political correctness and lose the primary reason for training.

SFC Jason Werstak - In TX I do not see required training as infringement but as protection. Too many people have used their firearm at the wrong time and seen significant legal troubles. Other states, absolutely it is a means to infringe.

MAJ Byron Oyler I agree with you. So many people buy a gun(s) but have no knowledge of when to use it or understand how the legal system. works. Basic gun safety is great but the liability one faces if used can be catastrophic.

I'm really not trying to pick a fight or be a smartass... but There are so very many things that we do that are not wise. Every year about 500 people die from negligent discharges. Every year about 1700 people die in their bathtub. Granted most of America is in their bathtub once a day. Most Americans probably don't handle a firearm once a week. What's the threshold where government must get involved. If we apply that to every activity, I fear we'd become perpetual students.

I am a Veteran, and my DD-214 is my training Certificate.

SGT Steve McFarland - in Wisconsin that is enough. Yesterday a 3 year old got hold of a pistol and killed himself. Mom is in trouble, as if being stupid, losing a child isn't enough

SP5 Dennis Loberger Same with Florida.

I'm not against training. I just don't trust some state legislatures. My fear is that they will create training hoops too difficult to navigate. There are legislators who are trying to circumnavigate the 2nd Amendment by proposing 1000% taxes on firearms, ammunition and magazines.