Posted on Mar 3, 2022
UN Assembly votes to demand that Russia stop war in Ukraine
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Russia is decimating Ukraine and when this invasion is done, Ukraine and its people will be drained of everything and the Death toll will be staggering. All so Russia can take over UKRAINE and all of its natural resources... In my view, Russia is playing the United States along with their new alliance with CHINA! Both Russia and China are Nuclear powers and they are using that "Stick" to move forward in world dominance... China wants to control the entire South China Sea area and want to envelop Taiwan back into China... What do we do then?
What is the value of the United Nations in all this? There is no value that I can see... They have an Army of sorts and some level of equipment, yet this so called ORGANIZATION is basically doing NOTHING to help the cause of Ukraine and the Ukrainian people! It appears like Ukraine is left on its own to fight a world power and all the other countries of the world just try to send some equipment and supplies to Ukraine! In my view, we, the United States of America, are being backed into a corner so-to-speak by Russia and China... At some time we will have to pay the piper...
Listening to the News, it is all talk, no action... Where is our energy independence? We had it during the last administration, but no longer by the current administration... We are a consumer of the worlds energy supply and purchase millions of barrels of Oil from RUSSIA! Doesn't that seem a little odd to all of you?
What do you think about what is going on in Ukraine? What about the Russia - China alliance?
Will we support Taiwan or let China take it over?
I am just raising the questions and Postulating here, but I really do not like what I see and hear on the news... Sad...
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What is the value of the United Nations in all this? There is no value that I can see... They have an Army of sorts and some level of equipment, yet this so called ORGANIZATION is basically doing NOTHING to help the cause of Ukraine and the Ukrainian people! It appears like Ukraine is left on its own to fight a world power and all the other countries of the world just try to send some equipment and supplies to Ukraine! In my view, we, the United States of America, are being backed into a corner so-to-speak by Russia and China... At some time we will have to pay the piper...
Listening to the News, it is all talk, no action... Where is our energy independence? We had it during the last administration, but no longer by the current administration... We are a consumer of the worlds energy supply and purchase millions of barrels of Oil from RUSSIA! Doesn't that seem a little odd to all of you?
What do you think about what is going on in Ukraine? What about the Russia - China alliance?
Will we support Taiwan or let China take it over?
I am just raising the questions and Postulating here, but I really do not like what I see and hear on the news... Sad...
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UN Assembly votes to demand that Russia stop war in Ukraine
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Your thoughts and mine are pretty much in lockstep to the point that I looked in and posted the UN time-line on Korea yesterday. Technically the UN didn't commit troops until Seoul fell to the North Koreans so following that precedent we would have to see Kyiv fall before the UN would consider military action. The problem is the UN is a bunch of politicians and diplomats who have the mindset of those in Foggy Bottom, not the Pentagon.
The oil thing you bring up is comical in a way. We do not import Russian oil because we needed it but rather in support of a global economy, something that the previous administration had no concept of. Russian actions have pretty much turned that economy upside down and western companies that worked with Russia in the oil industry have withdrawn, or are in the process of withdrawing, their participation. Like a ship you don't stop the global flow of Russian oil on a dime, but it's happening.
Alliances aside, Russia and China traditionally hate each other so some short term so called alliance has the lasting power of an agreement written on toilet paper. We will support Taiwan, but China is savvy enough to not go after it in a Putin style action. How China goes about economic and real estate development on Taiwan should be of more concern than worry about military action there.
The oil thing you bring up is comical in a way. We do not import Russian oil because we needed it but rather in support of a global economy, something that the previous administration had no concept of. Russian actions have pretty much turned that economy upside down and western companies that worked with Russia in the oil industry have withdrawn, or are in the process of withdrawing, their participation. Like a ship you don't stop the global flow of Russian oil on a dime, but it's happening.
Alliances aside, Russia and China traditionally hate each other so some short term so called alliance has the lasting power of an agreement written on toilet paper. We will support Taiwan, but China is savvy enough to not go after it in a Putin style action. How China goes about economic and real estate development on Taiwan should be of more concern than worry about military action there.
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Excellent comments Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen! The Russia/China scenario you mention seems right, although I still think there will be some level of military action on Taiwan, but China will use mostly the economic process as they are currently doing in Australia...
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Patricia Overmeyer
Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen: Xi punked Putin big time. When Xi and Putin met at the Olympics and they signed their joint agreement, XI mostly was not about to slit his own throat for Putin in Xi's quest for world domination. Xi likely wanted to see what the West's reaction (EU, USA, Australia, etc.) would be to a land war and Putin gave him the opportunity to find out. Hence Xi's statement bout the right of countries to stop "an invasion of sovereignty" yada, yada, yada. Xi also probably knew that the West would impose serious economic sanctions on Russia, thus making China about the only country Putin will be able to trade with. That gives China tremendous power over Putin...much more than Xi already had. About the only thing Xi really needs out of Russia is wheat and oil. But Xi can extract a heavy price for Russia to pay, i.e. that wheat and oil are going to be really cheap on the market. Then throw in the fact this also gives Xi the ability to see exactly what Putin's military is capable of doing.
https://responsiblestatecraft.org/2022/02/12/breaking-down-that-putin-xi-joint-statement-on-a-new-era/
https://responsiblestatecraft.org/2022/02/12/breaking-down-that-putin-xi-joint-statement-on-a-new-era/
Breaking down that Putin-Xi joint statement on a 'new era' - Responsible Statecraft
Responsible Statecraft Breaking down that Putin-Xi joint statement on a 'new era' Analysis -
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Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen
Patricia Overmeyer Agree that Xi is learning a lot more about Russian ability than the reaction of the West
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Patricia Overmeyer
Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen - I think Xi was aware that there would be some condemnation and economic sanctions from the West but I don't think he knew the exact extent of it. This gives him much more insight into that area. Putin didn't think that through, mostly because he believes his own propaganda and Fox News talking heads (which are regularly appearing on RT, Sputnik, etc.) that were propping him up.
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Agree with you Sgt (Join to see) I believe China is playing a larger role in this than anyone cares to admit and they are watching what a politically divided US is capable of doing given that division. The repeated talk and spectre of nuclear arms is a traditional go-to of Russian foreign policy, because Russia knows that it gets attention. If Putin gets backed into a corner will he go there? If so, will he limit it to tactical nukes as is written in their nuclear policy to end a conventional war? In terms of the UN, it is a nice resolution with no teeth or ability to enforce. I'm sure China and Taiwan are looking to see if we honor our treaty obligations if NATO Article 5 is triggered by Russian actions. No easy answers and I just hope if it comes to action we put aside our political divide and come together as a nation.
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The major media networks--yes, ALL of them--seem devoted only to creating & presenting heroes & villains; IOW, producing celebrities of some sort. This draws readers, viewers. General history is ignored or suppressed.
As for Ukraine, it's been a punching bag for Russia since the 18th century when Prussia & Russia started carving up the Kingdom of Poland; parts of Baltic countries, Belarus, Moldova, Poland, Ukraine were alternately subsumed into Prussia/Russia; until Prussia was squeezed into a unified Germany in the 1870s. Even in the 1920s, Poland invaded Ukraine.
Energy independence, the U.N.?: These are the bailiwicks of oligarchs of all stripes. The U.N. has never been anything but a referee among nations: General Assembly, Security Council issue their edicts that have little effect: "Well, we did what we could!" Enough people profit from the current state of energy interdependence to ensure no independence shall happen.
But the media outlets reduce all to Biden, Putin, Trump (apparently just in case the latter really still is the Pres.). Unfortunately, Putin one-ups the other two & almost every other hero & villain because his life has genuinely been in danger; our two leisure class guys can only deliver the occasional hand-wringer.
As for Ukraine, it's been a punching bag for Russia since the 18th century when Prussia & Russia started carving up the Kingdom of Poland; parts of Baltic countries, Belarus, Moldova, Poland, Ukraine were alternately subsumed into Prussia/Russia; until Prussia was squeezed into a unified Germany in the 1870s. Even in the 1920s, Poland invaded Ukraine.
Energy independence, the U.N.?: These are the bailiwicks of oligarchs of all stripes. The U.N. has never been anything but a referee among nations: General Assembly, Security Council issue their edicts that have little effect: "Well, we did what we could!" Enough people profit from the current state of energy interdependence to ensure no independence shall happen.
But the media outlets reduce all to Biden, Putin, Trump (apparently just in case the latter really still is the Pres.). Unfortunately, Putin one-ups the other two & almost every other hero & villain because his life has genuinely been in danger; our two leisure class guys can only deliver the occasional hand-wringer.
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