Posted on Jan 31, 2022
Inside the Secretive Networks of Military COVID-19 Vaccine Refusers — Military.com
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If they are not spreading misinformation, why do they feel the need to use codewords?
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Maj John Bell
"...they use coded language and secrecy trying to stay ahead of the social network's efforts to eliminate "misinformation."
The press was no less biased at any time in American history. The founding fathers felt the burden of determining truth was the sole province of the individual. What the anticipated a repressive government trying to control information, hence the first Amendment. What they did not anticipate, was social media giants in the hands of like-minded individuals with the power to smother the other side.
In my opinion, social media networks have every right to monitor/censor content. What they do not have a right to is the mantle of unquestionable authority of what is or is not misinformation. The social media censors do not have generally accepted credibility.
Whenever people feel they are being repressed/oppressed, they will develop underground networks. Despite laws, regulations and terms of use the human mind will go where it wills. Long live the resistance! [No matter which side of the aisle they claim.]
The press was no less biased at any time in American history. The founding fathers felt the burden of determining truth was the sole province of the individual. What the anticipated a repressive government trying to control information, hence the first Amendment. What they did not anticipate, was social media giants in the hands of like-minded individuals with the power to smother the other side.
In my opinion, social media networks have every right to monitor/censor content. What they do not have a right to is the mantle of unquestionable authority of what is or is not misinformation. The social media censors do not have generally accepted credibility.
Whenever people feel they are being repressed/oppressed, they will develop underground networks. Despite laws, regulations and terms of use the human mind will go where it wills. Long live the resistance! [No matter which side of the aisle they claim.]
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SrA John Monette
Social media has every right to do what they wish with whatever is posted on that site. Until that media is run by the government, then they can decide what is and is not disinformation.
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Maj John Bell
SrA John Monette - As I stated above "social media networks have every right to monitor/censor content." But they can no more demand that I accept their assertion of truth and untruth any more than they can expect me to accept their assertion that broccoli, brussels sprouts and asparagus taste good. They aren't deciding disinformation. They are deciding acceptable content for their platform. It is semantics, but words [especially in an information war] have meaning.
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This reminds me of the time I learned what quid pro quo is from a sharp class.
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MAJ Byron Oyler
COL (Join to see) - I was just comparing how they bring all these anti-vaxxers together and now they are a group and before SHARP I had no idea what quid pro quo was.
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CWO4 Terrence Clark
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Is that the ring of a challenge coin on the bar I hear? :-))
Many layers in that Hmmmm. I've not been a fan of military.com since at least the reign of Bush the 1st. Messenger is irrelevant. The message is the issue. Written in a tabloid tenor and tone as though a group of subversives was being exposed, rather than a support group. One glaring example of stepping out of a reporting role and into an opinion role was his attempt to question the credibility of LCOL Theresa Long and her assertion that the vax formulation included polyethylene glycol which is also in antifreeze. The writer claimed antifreeze contains ethylene glycol not polyethylene glycol. Insinuating she has no credibility. Wrong. Modern antifreeze contains both glycol, partially because ethelyne is so poisonous. (And sweet, making a great rat poison, but I digress). He could have taken the approach of " so what? Polyethylene glycol is MiraLax." (Also a compound I soak green wood bowl blanks in to prevent splitting on the lathe, but again I digress)
The bigger part of the Hmmmmm is that I disagree with the manner the DOD has approached this. When the vax came out last March, we jumped at it believing it to be a preventative much like polio or smallpox. Now it appears to be at best a therapeutic. Further it is an experimental therapeutic whose long term effects are still unfolding. Further, even with the vax, an individual can still be infected again, develope symptoms again, share with others again. There are valid religious reservations as well. When we received our Moderna, we were not apprised of the fetal cell connection. If the vax were pork derived, would Jews and Muslims be forced to inject it? Then there is the statistical probability problem. We've known almost since inception the vulnerable populations. Active military age and younger are low in probability. Odd the preoccupation with this when for years now, according to reporting by military.com as many as 120,000 (unbelievable) service members are undeployable for a variety of reasons (fat, pregnant, whatever)(I understand that number is coming down). And we have a push to swear in trans folks, who are lifelong chemical taking invalids (while I was dropped from the N.E.S.E.P. program for color blindness) The fact that the military is a captive social experiment with warfighting as a side hack was well known before I received my draft notice. But this inflexible push is new within that construct. One views life through the lenses of ones experiences. Mine recalls AIDS and the 80's. Then, the DOD protected the identity of HIV positives as Top Secret. And they were shuffled up and down the waterfront like domino's. If a ship down the pier deployed, and a new guy reported in Hmmmm. Personal experience with giving chest compressions and resuscitation to a dislocated shoulder with torn artery who turned out to be one of the HIV stealth warriors.
In summary, I'm against mandates, I sympathize with these guys, I wrestle with how/what personal rights are suborned in uniform, I'm a stickler for good order and discipline, I've never trusted the government, the bloom is off this vax rose, and I am "conspiracist" enough to believe that purging the military of folks who question policy is part of the search for "extremists".
Since I allowed you to pry me from my customary non commital posture, as a physician, I expect you to email DMAFB pharmacy an Rx for NuSkin for my overworked typing finger.
Is that the ring of a challenge coin on the bar I hear? :-))
Many layers in that Hmmmm. I've not been a fan of military.com since at least the reign of Bush the 1st. Messenger is irrelevant. The message is the issue. Written in a tabloid tenor and tone as though a group of subversives was being exposed, rather than a support group. One glaring example of stepping out of a reporting role and into an opinion role was his attempt to question the credibility of LCOL Theresa Long and her assertion that the vax formulation included polyethylene glycol which is also in antifreeze. The writer claimed antifreeze contains ethylene glycol not polyethylene glycol. Insinuating she has no credibility. Wrong. Modern antifreeze contains both glycol, partially because ethelyne is so poisonous. (And sweet, making a great rat poison, but I digress). He could have taken the approach of " so what? Polyethylene glycol is MiraLax." (Also a compound I soak green wood bowl blanks in to prevent splitting on the lathe, but again I digress)
The bigger part of the Hmmmmm is that I disagree with the manner the DOD has approached this. When the vax came out last March, we jumped at it believing it to be a preventative much like polio or smallpox. Now it appears to be at best a therapeutic. Further it is an experimental therapeutic whose long term effects are still unfolding. Further, even with the vax, an individual can still be infected again, develope symptoms again, share with others again. There are valid religious reservations as well. When we received our Moderna, we were not apprised of the fetal cell connection. If the vax were pork derived, would Jews and Muslims be forced to inject it? Then there is the statistical probability problem. We've known almost since inception the vulnerable populations. Active military age and younger are low in probability. Odd the preoccupation with this when for years now, according to reporting by military.com as many as 120,000 (unbelievable) service members are undeployable for a variety of reasons (fat, pregnant, whatever)(I understand that number is coming down). And we have a push to swear in trans folks, who are lifelong chemical taking invalids (while I was dropped from the N.E.S.E.P. program for color blindness) The fact that the military is a captive social experiment with warfighting as a side hack was well known before I received my draft notice. But this inflexible push is new within that construct. One views life through the lenses of ones experiences. Mine recalls AIDS and the 80's. Then, the DOD protected the identity of HIV positives as Top Secret. And they were shuffled up and down the waterfront like domino's. If a ship down the pier deployed, and a new guy reported in Hmmmm. Personal experience with giving chest compressions and resuscitation to a dislocated shoulder with torn artery who turned out to be one of the HIV stealth warriors.
In summary, I'm against mandates, I sympathize with these guys, I wrestle with how/what personal rights are suborned in uniform, I'm a stickler for good order and discipline, I've never trusted the government, the bloom is off this vax rose, and I am "conspiracist" enough to believe that purging the military of folks who question policy is part of the search for "extremists".
Since I allowed you to pry me from my customary non commital posture, as a physician, I expect you to email DMAFB pharmacy an Rx for NuSkin for my overworked typing finger.
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Bravo brother CWO4 Terrence Clark. I am literally applauding. Thank you for the share. I got your artificial moleskin in the mail
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