Posted on Sep 17, 2021
Boys more at risk from Pfizer jab side-effect than Covid, suggests study
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Boys more at risk from Pfizer jab side-effect than Covid, suggests study
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I don't believe that the majority of children or teens need the vaccine. If they get COVID, it tends to be mild and the immunity from the actual disease is stronger than the vaccine anyway.
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The JCVI did not recommend vaccinating healthy 12 to 15-year-olds, but referred the matter to the UK’s chief medical officers who are expected to make a final decision next week. Children aged 12 to 15 who are particularly vulnerable to Covid, or who live with an at-risk person, are eligible for the shots.
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The JCVI did not recommend vaccinating healthy 12 to 15-year-olds, but referred the matter to the UK’s chief medical officers who are expected to make a final decision next week. Children aged 12 to 15 who are particularly vulnerable to Covid, or who live with an at-risk person, are eligible for the shots.
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This applies to the UK and this is from the article even:
"How reliable the data is and whether similar numbers could be seen in the UK if healthy 12 to 15-year-olds are vaccinated are unclear: vaccine reactions are recorded differently in the US and shots are given at longer time intervals in the UK. According to the UK medicines regulator, the rate of myocarditis after Covid vaccination is only six per million shots of Pfizer/BioNTech."
And: "So far, UK children have not been admitted to hospital for Covid in large numbers and may not be at great risk of long Covid. While the recent Clock study found that up to 14% of children who caught Covid may still have symptoms 15 weeks later, levels of fatigue appear similar to those in children who have not caught the virus. This suggests that children may be spared some of the most debilitating problems seen in adult long Covid.
"The MHRA said it has been closely monitoring all available data on the potential risk of myocarditis and pericarditis following Covid-19 vaccination. “We have concluded that the Covid-19 vaccines made by Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna may be linked with a small increase in the risk of these very rare conditions. The cases tended to be mild and the vast majority recovered with simple treatment and rest,” they added.
The spokesperson said the latest study had been considered by the government’s independent advisory body, the Covid-19 vaccines benefit risk expert working group, which found that the interpretation of the findings was limited by the fact that the study did not take into account differences in treatment practices when comparing hospitalisation rates between Covid-19 infections and myocarditis and pericarditis presenting post-vaccination, and there was no assessment of severity and duration of illness after admission."
"How reliable the data is and whether similar numbers could be seen in the UK if healthy 12 to 15-year-olds are vaccinated are unclear: vaccine reactions are recorded differently in the US and shots are given at longer time intervals in the UK. According to the UK medicines regulator, the rate of myocarditis after Covid vaccination is only six per million shots of Pfizer/BioNTech."
And: "So far, UK children have not been admitted to hospital for Covid in large numbers and may not be at great risk of long Covid. While the recent Clock study found that up to 14% of children who caught Covid may still have symptoms 15 weeks later, levels of fatigue appear similar to those in children who have not caught the virus. This suggests that children may be spared some of the most debilitating problems seen in adult long Covid.
"The MHRA said it has been closely monitoring all available data on the potential risk of myocarditis and pericarditis following Covid-19 vaccination. “We have concluded that the Covid-19 vaccines made by Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna may be linked with a small increase in the risk of these very rare conditions. The cases tended to be mild and the vast majority recovered with simple treatment and rest,” they added.
The spokesperson said the latest study had been considered by the government’s independent advisory body, the Covid-19 vaccines benefit risk expert working group, which found that the interpretation of the findings was limited by the fact that the study did not take into account differences in treatment practices when comparing hospitalisation rates between Covid-19 infections and myocarditis and pericarditis presenting post-vaccination, and there was no assessment of severity and duration of illness after admission."
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SFC Kelly Fuerhoff Noted, and thank you for adding balance.
However, it is my understanding that there is no difference between the US and UK versions of the vaccine.
As keeps being pointed out to me, there is always risk in any vaccine (I read the handouts from the makers). But this does not look good, at least for the short term. My reluctance to get vaccinated would and hopefully will evaporate, in about another few years. There is now a massive sample size of people who have been vaccinated, so as time goes on if there are no major our breaks of health problems in those of you who got it, the likelyhood of me taking it will increase from a health standpoint.
From the religion stand point the vaccine mandates will need to drop.
However, it is my understanding that there is no difference between the US and UK versions of the vaccine.
As keeps being pointed out to me, there is always risk in any vaccine (I read the handouts from the makers). But this does not look good, at least for the short term. My reluctance to get vaccinated would and hopefully will evaporate, in about another few years. There is now a massive sample size of people who have been vaccinated, so as time goes on if there are no major our breaks of health problems in those of you who got it, the likelyhood of me taking it will increase from a health standpoint.
From the religion stand point the vaccine mandates will need to drop.
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SFC Kelly Fuerhoff
SSG (Join to see) - Vaccine reactions are recorded differently: "vaccine reactions are recorded differently in the US and shots are given at longer time intervals in the UK." Also: ""So far, UK children have not been admitted to hospital for Covid in large numbers and may not be at great risk of long Covid." That's another difference between the two countries. Children are being admitted at what seems to be higher numbers in the US than in the UK with the delta variant.
Then there's this part too: "which found that the interpretation of the findings was limited by the fact that the study did not take into account differences in treatment practices when comparing hospitalisation rates between Covid-19 infections and myocarditis and pericarditis presenting post-vaccination, and there was no assessment of severity and duration of illness after admission."" Interpretation of findings was limited due to not taking into account differences in treatment practice...
I was just pointing out from the article that it's not really as cut and dry with myocarditis as you seemed to make it.
Then there's this part too: "which found that the interpretation of the findings was limited by the fact that the study did not take into account differences in treatment practices when comparing hospitalisation rates between Covid-19 infections and myocarditis and pericarditis presenting post-vaccination, and there was no assessment of severity and duration of illness after admission."" Interpretation of findings was limited due to not taking into account differences in treatment practice...
I was just pointing out from the article that it's not really as cut and dry with myocarditis as you seemed to make it.
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SFC Kelly Fuerhoff Well I did ask that it be read before commenting, but yeah the headline is a factor.
A good friend of mine is well within the cheif demographic of people who die from COVID. I supported him getting the vaccine, so far he has been okay. A bunch of other friends and family have gotten it with wildly varrying side effects, none too serious. Meanwhile COVID ripped through my work site almost completely without notice.
So for me apart from previously mentioned religious concerns, I am looking at risk/reward. I have had COVID, so the unknowns of the vaccine present more risk than reward, as for me at least COVID presents no threat at all.
There are other things I am seeing from my networks that give me reason to be cautious, but till I can get them verified I am refraining from posting them.
A good friend of mine is well within the cheif demographic of people who die from COVID. I supported him getting the vaccine, so far he has been okay. A bunch of other friends and family have gotten it with wildly varrying side effects, none too serious. Meanwhile COVID ripped through my work site almost completely without notice.
So for me apart from previously mentioned religious concerns, I am looking at risk/reward. I have had COVID, so the unknowns of the vaccine present more risk than reward, as for me at least COVID presents no threat at all.
There are other things I am seeing from my networks that give me reason to be cautious, but till I can get them verified I am refraining from posting them.
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