Posted on Aug 13, 2021
These 8 states make up half of US Covid-19 hospitalizations. And the surge among the unvaccinated...
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Maj John Bell
Perhaps you should read SPC David S.'s break down of the numbers on a per capita basis, comparing the 2 biggest blue states vs the 8 red states. It is interesting to note that both blue states have substantially higher vaccination rates than the 8 red states. So I don't think you can make a strong case that the party affiliation of the voters, legislature or governor equals causation.
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As of June 1st there were 39,605 total hospitalizations and New York (4,789 cases) and California (4,291 cases) accounted for 23% of all hospitalizations. All the other states listed (12,215 cases) accounted for 31%. However the population for New York and Cali is around 58,913,474 while the other 8 states combined population is around 81,252,229. If you divide the number of cases by population - 9080/58913474 you get .0154% for Cali and New York and .015 for the other 8 states. Meaning Cali and New York have a slightly higher hospitalization rates than the other 8 states.
So despite having poor vaccination levels they are on par with Cali and New York.
I think its important to point out however both groups have almost zero hospitalization in terms of their respective populations or at least very very low.
That's the funny thing with numbers they can be very misleading if not applied in a way that actually represents data in a meaningful way. Seems CNN is actually trying to create a narrative in saying states with low vaccination levels are the problem when in fact that claim isn't even close to being true in term of hospitalizations per state populations as proven with data provided. However this is a fluid situation that changes everyday.
https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/number-of-covid-19-hospitalizations-state-by-state-july-15.html
https://worldpopulationreview.com/states
So despite having poor vaccination levels they are on par with Cali and New York.
I think its important to point out however both groups have almost zero hospitalization in terms of their respective populations or at least very very low.
That's the funny thing with numbers they can be very misleading if not applied in a way that actually represents data in a meaningful way. Seems CNN is actually trying to create a narrative in saying states with low vaccination levels are the problem when in fact that claim isn't even close to being true in term of hospitalizations per state populations as proven with data provided. However this is a fluid situation that changes everyday.
https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/number-of-covid-19-hospitalizations-state-by-state-july-15.html
https://worldpopulationreview.com/states
COVID-19 hospitalizations by state: March 8
New York currently has the most COVID-19 patients hospitalized, according to the COVID Tracking Project.
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CWO4 Terrence Clark
SPC David S.
Well reasoned math. Cuts the edge off the hysteria. If you further divide cases into subsets of cases vs outpatient vs inpatient vs ICU you get even more informative numbers. Divide those subsets into age, co morbidity, etc., you begin to get at the problem and can respond more efficiently. Nope. Not a Dr. Just a guy making a good living looking at balance sheets.
Well reasoned math. Cuts the edge off the hysteria. If you further divide cases into subsets of cases vs outpatient vs inpatient vs ICU you get even more informative numbers. Divide those subsets into age, co morbidity, etc., you begin to get at the problem and can respond more efficiently. Nope. Not a Dr. Just a guy making a good living looking at balance sheets.
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SPC David S.
CWO4 Terrence Clark - very true under 24 its 99.99% survivable yet over 85 it drops to 65% as most over 85 have a least one chronic illness. Our data on this is garbage and for the most part should not be used in determining any important information about this virus. A prime example is case fatality rate - deaths divided by number cases. Its reported in the US the CFR is around 3%-4% however using highly controlled data from Iceland its more like .3% compare this to season flu which is around .1% we locked up everyone assuming the risk for all were the same - clearly not true.
Some may argue we erred on the side of caution but clearly this is not true as we know now who is at risk yet many states are now mandating vaccines. However the science shows vaccine vs immunity from having had COVID - you are 7X's more likely to have an outbreak case if you had the vaccine vs having had the virus. Point is the information being put out is the vaccine is the only way to stop the spread - complete disregard for herd immunity.
So if under 24 and already had COVID the state is going to mandate a vaccine for such individuals? That's the equivalent of giving ice to an Eskimo.
Some may argue we erred on the side of caution but clearly this is not true as we know now who is at risk yet many states are now mandating vaccines. However the science shows vaccine vs immunity from having had COVID - you are 7X's more likely to have an outbreak case if you had the vaccine vs having had the virus. Point is the information being put out is the vaccine is the only way to stop the spread - complete disregard for herd immunity.
So if under 24 and already had COVID the state is going to mandate a vaccine for such individuals? That's the equivalent of giving ice to an Eskimo.
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