Posted on Apr 9, 2021
Fort Hood-based commander fired for bullying his staff
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A Fort Hood-based brigade commander was relieved of duty Thursday for bullying subordinate officers, resulting in “a loss of trust and confidence” in his ability to lead, the 1st Cavalry Division said in a statement.
Col. Michael Schoenfeldt, who commanded the 1st Brigade Combat Team, 1st Cavalry Division, has been reassigned and is now performing administrative duties, the division said.
Col. Michael Schoenfeldt, who commanded the 1st Brigade Combat Team, 1st Cavalry Division, has been reassigned and is now performing administrative duties, the division said.
Fort Hood-based commander fired for bullying his staff
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Has the army reached a point where it's eating its own? Now we've reached the point where people complain about their commanding officer and in this cancel culture we take a highly decorated Colonel and reduce him to a paper shuffler just because subordinates can't handle a strong leader? I've yet to read specifics of how he "bullied" those that were in his command. What happened to suck it up buttercup! If George Patton were a General today would he have been court-martialed for slapping a soldier that he thought was a malingerer? Don't get me wrong. I'm not into abusive Commanders. But maybe I was a soldier during a period of time when there were fewer Keyboard Warriors and more hands-on. Adapt and overcome. At the tail end of a kinetic war perhaps we were different. As a military policeman we dealt one on one and hands-on with badass soldiers. We had to be just as bad ass. It was either that or get our butts kicked every day. In theater it was no different.
What kind of officers is OCS putting out these days? They're the ones that are going to be future leaders. I remember growing up to TV shows like the Rat Patrol. Combat. Movies like Platoon. Full Metal Jacket. Now we have the Pansy Patrol? Is their shoulder patch a flower? I truly mean no disrespect for my brothers and sisters that serve now with honor and distinction. I'm speaking of a small segment it seems to have latched onto the cancel culture. I find myself asking why they are in the military to begin with. It is very regimented and regulation paste. It needs strong leaders. The no BS kind.
What happened at Fort Hood where I was stationed at a much earlier time in life, and specifically thinking of Vanessa Guillén, seems to have launched us into a new era where commanders across the third largest military installation in the world are second-guessed and chastised and relieved of duty or told not to be so tough on their troops. Why? They were not responsible for a specialist murdering a young female Soldier. So what did we do? We sent special investigators in to talk to female soldiers and end up with this whole idea that Fort Hood specifically is too tough on soldiers. A major training center for our military is too tough?
What kind of officers is OCS putting out these days? They're the ones that are going to be future leaders. I remember growing up to TV shows like the Rat Patrol. Combat. Movies like Platoon. Full Metal Jacket. Now we have the Pansy Patrol? Is their shoulder patch a flower? I truly mean no disrespect for my brothers and sisters that serve now with honor and distinction. I'm speaking of a small segment it seems to have latched onto the cancel culture. I find myself asking why they are in the military to begin with. It is very regimented and regulation paste. It needs strong leaders. The no BS kind.
What happened at Fort Hood where I was stationed at a much earlier time in life, and specifically thinking of Vanessa Guillén, seems to have launched us into a new era where commanders across the third largest military installation in the world are second-guessed and chastised and relieved of duty or told not to be so tough on their troops. Why? They were not responsible for a specialist murdering a young female Soldier. So what did we do? We sent special investigators in to talk to female soldiers and end up with this whole idea that Fort Hood specifically is too tough on soldiers. A major training center for our military is too tough?
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MAJ Byron Oyler
The tough love I have been given over the last 30 years you cannot do today. I every bit needed it over the years and not one of those leaders has been tougher on me than what life brought and their actions prepared me for some of the worst times.
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SSG Robert Ricci
MAJ Byron Oyler It's kind of what I meant sir by suck it up buttercup. Adapt and overcome. The Army taught me that as well. I never had a father growing up and For Better or Worse the Army became my father. Strong discipline, and a core set of values. Not unyielding didn't either. As a parent I didn't have my daughter's down in the front leaning rest position. Maybe I should have. LOL.
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SFC Kelly Fuerhoff
SSG Robert Ricci
"I remember growing up to TV shows like the Rat Patrol. Combat. Movies like Platoon. Full Metal Jacket."
Those are just that - TV shows. Movies. If that's your mentality of the military...wow. Good thing you're out.
"What happened at Fort Hood where I was stationed at a much earlier time in life, and specifically thinking of Vanessa Guillén, seems to have launched us into a new era where commanders across the third largest military installation in the world are second-guessed and chastised and relieved of duty or told not to be so tough on their troops. Why? They were not responsible for a specialist murdering a young female Soldier. So what did we do? We sent special investigators in to talk to female soldiers and end up with this whole idea that Fort Hood specifically is too tough on soldiers. A major training center for our military is too tough?"
Are you dismissing the murder of soldiers by other soldiers? Are you ignoring the fact that Ft Hood has been a toxic cesspool for decades that culminated in the murder of soldiers?
The leadership at Hood that resulted in the toxic atmosphere that allowed for her murder to happen ARE responsible. 100% responsible.
It's quite obvious you have issues outside your daddy issues...
"I remember growing up to TV shows like the Rat Patrol. Combat. Movies like Platoon. Full Metal Jacket."
Those are just that - TV shows. Movies. If that's your mentality of the military...wow. Good thing you're out.
"What happened at Fort Hood where I was stationed at a much earlier time in life, and specifically thinking of Vanessa Guillén, seems to have launched us into a new era where commanders across the third largest military installation in the world are second-guessed and chastised and relieved of duty or told not to be so tough on their troops. Why? They were not responsible for a specialist murdering a young female Soldier. So what did we do? We sent special investigators in to talk to female soldiers and end up with this whole idea that Fort Hood specifically is too tough on soldiers. A major training center for our military is too tough?"
Are you dismissing the murder of soldiers by other soldiers? Are you ignoring the fact that Ft Hood has been a toxic cesspool for decades that culminated in the murder of soldiers?
The leadership at Hood that resulted in the toxic atmosphere that allowed for her murder to happen ARE responsible. 100% responsible.
It's quite obvious you have issues outside your daddy issues...
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SSG Robert Ricci
SFC Kelly Fuerhoff Your personal attack on my opinion is inappropriate. That's because you attacked me as an individual and not my opinion. You made it personal. For you to assert that I have issues outside of my control is grossly inappropriate and an assault on my integrity, my honor, and even on my mental health that you are not in a position to determine. Who the hell do you think you are? Are you a psychiatrist? It's your kind of BS that caused me to stay away from this site for at least the last six months and after I post this I will be gone again. I don't need some self-righteous SOB telling me basically I need to see a shrink because he doesn't like my trained opinion. I'm sure your degree in journalism qualifies you tell me where a comma goes but not the psychology of a Murder.
My reference to the TV shows I once watched are of rugged men back in a time when men were men and not these candy-ass pansies that reported their CO for being too tough on them. COs need to be tough on combat troops. A commanding officer was never responsible for one service member killing another. But we're also talking about a different time altogether in life. We're talking about how the cancel culture is infiltrated even the military where is enough people say something negative about someone that person's automatically guilty. The career that this Colonel built up over 30 years is shot.
I have been a cop for a long time and that includes being a military cop at Fort Hood. I have seen more things then you could ever know. Things that are different than War. Things that point more towards human nature and a failure to know the difference between right and wrong.
You were never a military policeman at Fort Hood. I was and it was not the cesspool that you allege that it has been for decades. Only once in my entire time at Fort Hood did I ever have to literally fight with someone to take them to jail. That's not to say I never had to go hands-on but it was completely different elsewhere.
When I got to Europe my eyes were opened to a whole different type of military where just about every call we went on involved drugs and or alcohol. Domestic violence was through the roof. Sure, we had that at Fort Hood but not like we had over in Europe. THAT I will give you was in large part COs not doing enough random UA's.
For you to try to equate the murder of Vanessa Guillén with her CO lacks any foundation. The CO doesn't have the power to set the ugly inside someone's heart that results in cold-blooded murder. That speaks more to the military letting somebody of low character into the military to begin with into an all-volunteer military that was not meeting its enlistment quotas.
You could have simply disagreed with me and left it at that. But you wanted a mouth off. You have a bachelor's degree in journalism. I have a Doctoral degree in Public Administration and a Masters in Sociology. The study of sociology is the study of human nature. Human nature doesn't change just because someone is in the military. The discipline analyzes the impact of social factors, such as race, ethnicity, gender, and social class on life chances and social relations. THAT's in large part what causes murder.
You are so far out in left field that you don't even know where you're at. To me you're just a loudmouth E7 the thinks he's someone special. That his opinion actually matters more than somebody that has been dealing specifically with these kinds of issues for decades. I'm sure you're well qualified to write a paragraph but I'm even more qualified to discuss the mental state of a murderer.
My reference to the TV shows I once watched are of rugged men back in a time when men were men and not these candy-ass pansies that reported their CO for being too tough on them. COs need to be tough on combat troops. A commanding officer was never responsible for one service member killing another. But we're also talking about a different time altogether in life. We're talking about how the cancel culture is infiltrated even the military where is enough people say something negative about someone that person's automatically guilty. The career that this Colonel built up over 30 years is shot.
I have been a cop for a long time and that includes being a military cop at Fort Hood. I have seen more things then you could ever know. Things that are different than War. Things that point more towards human nature and a failure to know the difference between right and wrong.
You were never a military policeman at Fort Hood. I was and it was not the cesspool that you allege that it has been for decades. Only once in my entire time at Fort Hood did I ever have to literally fight with someone to take them to jail. That's not to say I never had to go hands-on but it was completely different elsewhere.
When I got to Europe my eyes were opened to a whole different type of military where just about every call we went on involved drugs and or alcohol. Domestic violence was through the roof. Sure, we had that at Fort Hood but not like we had over in Europe. THAT I will give you was in large part COs not doing enough random UA's.
For you to try to equate the murder of Vanessa Guillén with her CO lacks any foundation. The CO doesn't have the power to set the ugly inside someone's heart that results in cold-blooded murder. That speaks more to the military letting somebody of low character into the military to begin with into an all-volunteer military that was not meeting its enlistment quotas.
You could have simply disagreed with me and left it at that. But you wanted a mouth off. You have a bachelor's degree in journalism. I have a Doctoral degree in Public Administration and a Masters in Sociology. The study of sociology is the study of human nature. Human nature doesn't change just because someone is in the military. The discipline analyzes the impact of social factors, such as race, ethnicity, gender, and social class on life chances and social relations. THAT's in large part what causes murder.
You are so far out in left field that you don't even know where you're at. To me you're just a loudmouth E7 the thinks he's someone special. That his opinion actually matters more than somebody that has been dealing specifically with these kinds of issues for decades. I'm sure you're well qualified to write a paragraph but I'm even more qualified to discuss the mental state of a murderer.
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I would be interest in knowing some of the specifics pf the charge. I've run into some seriously weak (physically and emotionally) staff officers.
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