Posted on Jan 10, 2021
At least 25 troops under investigation for terrorism in connection with Capitol riot
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Lol. When the left riots it's 'peaceful'. When the right does it's 'terrorism'.
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1stSgt Nelson Kerr
MSgt Dale Johnson they could and seemed intent on the legislative branch and the VP.
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MSgt Dale Johnson
1stSgt Nelson Kerr - I do not discount that information at all, but our government is set up in such a robust way that even the deaths of the VP and a good portion of the the Senators and House Members would not result in a Government collapse. A crisis yes but not a collapse.
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CPT Will Adkins
1stSgt Nelson Kerr - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/31/americans-killed-protests-political-unrest-acled
This doesn't include the ambushed law enforcement officers and acts not conclusively attributed to violent political groups, even though circumstantial evidence is there. The damage to property has been estimated in the billions (but admittedly is hard to quantify) and has destroyed small businesses that are the livelihood for many families. They also laid siege to/attempted to torch federal buildings. Not dramatically different than the Capitol incident at all.
This doesn't include the ambushed law enforcement officers and acts not conclusively attributed to violent political groups, even though circumstantial evidence is there. The damage to property has been estimated in the billions (but admittedly is hard to quantify) and has destroyed small businesses that are the livelihood for many families. They also laid siege to/attempted to torch federal buildings. Not dramatically different than the Capitol incident at all.
At least 25 Americans were killed during protests and political unrest in 2020
Findings from Armed Conflict Location and Event Data raise concerns about continued violence during and after election day
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What a lot of folks are dismissing is that a joint session to confirm the electoral count was in progress, a process required by the Constitution, the basis for all US laws. When one does that they are committing seditious conspiracy. This is above all the trespassing, illegal weapons, occupation and destruction of facilities, and theft. At least one murder was committed and many assaults as well. The IEDs trigger another area under domestic terror. If we agree with a social contract to abide by the Constitution, then it has to be allowed to work. Once the courts rule on a matter, the only legal options are to either amend or change the law, or exercise assembly and peaceful protest. Rejecting the process is a rejection of the Constitution, which is the basis for our laws. The only other option is move to somewhere that allows anarchy. Attacking the Capitol doesn't fit in at all. Trying to claim patriotism as an alibi just adds insult to injury. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2384
18 U.S. Code § 2384 - Seditious conspiracy
If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States...
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Thanks. Finalizing "the consent of the governed" was in progress at the time it was stalled temporarily by a group of people that rejected their Constitutional government. Tyranny is a stretch, but it demonstrated a willingness to seize power of the Constitutionally required processes of a Constitutional Republic. If one wants to be a US citizen, a requirement is to abide by the Constitution. Military take an Oath to it.
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MAJ Bryan Zeski
CPL Earl Kochis - Yes, the 2A was written to give the people the means to overthrow the government. However, that does not make insurrection and revolution a legal process.
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PO3 Steve Nellett
MAJ Bryan Zeski They were there to protest the government, who supposedly serves at the pleasure of the citizenry, has refused to acknowledge evidence presented to congress of probable fraud in the most recent presidential election. I dont know, but that sounds to me like it might warrant a removal and replacement of supposed public servants who seem to have fogotten who they work for.
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MAJ Bryan Zeski
PO3 Steve Nellett Protest is fine. Assaulting the Capitol is inconsistent with protest.
The "evidence" of fraud has been presented to numerous courts - over 60 times - and has never been determined as substantial or credible enough to move on to a hearing with.
Your opinion regarding the forcible removal of elected officials is 100% contrary to the Constitutional process.
All elected officials DO serve at the pleasure of the people - because that's who keeps re-electing them. It is wholly within the power of the people to remove their Representatives through peaceful means at any time. If they do not, a small contingent cannot choose to use force instead - that is insurrection.
The "evidence" of fraud has been presented to numerous courts - over 60 times - and has never been determined as substantial or credible enough to move on to a hearing with.
Your opinion regarding the forcible removal of elected officials is 100% contrary to the Constitutional process.
All elected officials DO serve at the pleasure of the people - because that's who keeps re-electing them. It is wholly within the power of the people to remove their Representatives through peaceful means at any time. If they do not, a small contingent cannot choose to use force instead - that is insurrection.
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