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TSgt Jack Oberholtzer
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Have you ever been able to rent a 2 bedroom apartment or a 1 bedroom house for pay less than 30% of your income on minimum wage? To my thinking minimum wage jobs are something to get kids into the job market, not an end goal. Some people will never be able to handle the duties and responsibilities of anything more than minimum wage and there should be a discussion on how to help them, not on making the minimum effort sufficient to retire on. Job training and the idea of personal responsibility for able bodied adults needs to come back into fashion. My $.02
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Maj John Bell
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I think expectations have changed. When I was in high school (late 70's) and working minimum wage jobs, I had absolutely zero expectation that I would be able to rent a place of my own. We knew that it was going to take a group of us.

We figured out that if six of us shared a rundown two bedroom detached home in in a crappy neighborhood, we'd probably have enough money to:
Pay utilities,
Make phone calls from a pay phone,
live on Kraft Mac and cheese (25 cents for three boxes) all week,
do laundry and bum dinner one night, at our parents homes
buy a six pack a piece on Friday night
take a girl on a cheap date Saturday night
buy clothes and sundries from Goodwill and Yard sales, and
ration Toilet paper
If we wanted to go to college, we'd need a second job, and side jobs on Saturday and Sunday, or join the military.

Everybody knew you had to get an education, or get a skill before there was a possibility of having your own place, starting a family and enjoying some good life.
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Lt Col Charlie Brown
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Part of the problem is expectations. Except for Cali and Oregon, there are locations where people can afford to live in every state. That they CHOOSE not to be in those locations is another issue. I do think that this work elsewhere revolution we just went through is going to change the paradym.
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LCpl Brad Gross
LCpl Brad Gross
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Well I think it’s going to change after this pandemic and if people don’t get to work
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