Posted on Jan 20, 2020
At tense Virginia rally, gun-rights supporters chanted 'We will not comply'
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I mean it’s all about precautions considering what happened at Charlottesville and other events featuring hardliners on both sides.
As for the laws, instead of debating the issues it’s all about fear mongering those issues. Law abiding citizens aren’t afraid of universal background checks or that someone will falsely accuse them of being a danger under Red Flag Law. At least they shouldn’t be afraid of that.
I remember reporting on a pro gun rally where the organizers of the event had ask all the participants to leave their guns at home as they advocated for open and conceal carry. The Daily Show reporters pointed out the clear irony.
As for the laws, instead of debating the issues it’s all about fear mongering those issues. Law abiding citizens aren’t afraid of universal background checks or that someone will falsely accuse them of being a danger under Red Flag Law. At least they shouldn’t be afraid of that.
I remember reporting on a pro gun rally where the organizers of the event had ask all the participants to leave their guns at home as they advocated for open and conceal carry. The Daily Show reporters pointed out the clear irony.
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MAJ James Woods
Cpl Mark McMiller And only a dumbass don’t understand the amount of due process to a judge happens before a TRO is issued under the Red Flag law. I’m more concerned of a false accusation of rape or a “looks guilty cause I’m Black and in the wrong place” accusation these days. Cause those are more prevalent these days then what you’re concerned with.
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Maj John Bell
Capt Gregory Prickett - MAJ James Woods
Precisely my point, anytime the government gets a little to "hands on" or "intrusive" EVERYONE's knee jerk response should be "OH!!! HELL NO!!!" Then, and only then, step back and see if there is in fact an overriding compelling public interest. If there is, then and only then, should we consider an infringement on rights, and if that infringement is effective AND if the proposed solution is passes a basic cost benefit analysis. (social cost - social benefit)
I am in favor of universal background checks, but not much else when it comes to infringements on the 2nd Amendment. But I also feel that universal background checks should be at no cost to the applicant if he/she passes. If the general public has an over riding and compelling interest, the general public should foot the bill. Otherwise it seems more like a regressive tax designed to infringe upon the self-defense of the lower economic brackets.
Precisely my point, anytime the government gets a little to "hands on" or "intrusive" EVERYONE's knee jerk response should be "OH!!! HELL NO!!!" Then, and only then, step back and see if there is in fact an overriding compelling public interest. If there is, then and only then, should we consider an infringement on rights, and if that infringement is effective AND if the proposed solution is passes a basic cost benefit analysis. (social cost - social benefit)
I am in favor of universal background checks, but not much else when it comes to infringements on the 2nd Amendment. But I also feel that universal background checks should be at no cost to the applicant if he/she passes. If the general public has an over riding and compelling interest, the general public should foot the bill. Otherwise it seems more like a regressive tax designed to infringe upon the self-defense of the lower economic brackets.
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Maj John Bell
Capt Gregory Prickett - I'm pretty sure that when the founding fathers drafted, debated, and ratified the Constitution they didn't give a thought to what I like and don't like, NOR should they have. I'm also, I'm fairly sure I understand strict scrutiny, intermediate scrutiny, and rational basis as levels of judicial review.
Strict Scrutiny
_justified by a compelling governmental interest.
_narrowly tailored to achieve that goal or interest.
_least restrictive means for achieving that interest.
or am I wrong?
But the focal point of my post isn't the level of judicial review. It is about what does and what does not constitute a compelling government interest. The SCOTUS has not defined it, and it probably will always be a matter of opinion.
I'm curious as to what you think you know about my likes and dislikes when it comes to what the Constitution allows government to do, and what it says government may not do. There are most certainly Constitutionally protected behaviors that I find detestable. By no means does that mean I advocate the government ignore the Constitution and prohibit that conduct on a whim. In many ways, the very foundation of the Bill of Rights is that my, your, or anyone's sensibilities are not a good and wise pillars of good governance.
So, by all means, provide me an example where strict scrutiny is not applied to a Constitutional right, and I glad that a lesser standard is used.
Strict Scrutiny
_justified by a compelling governmental interest.
_narrowly tailored to achieve that goal or interest.
_least restrictive means for achieving that interest.
or am I wrong?
But the focal point of my post isn't the level of judicial review. It is about what does and what does not constitute a compelling government interest. The SCOTUS has not defined it, and it probably will always be a matter of opinion.
I'm curious as to what you think you know about my likes and dislikes when it comes to what the Constitution allows government to do, and what it says government may not do. There are most certainly Constitutionally protected behaviors that I find detestable. By no means does that mean I advocate the government ignore the Constitution and prohibit that conduct on a whim. In many ways, the very foundation of the Bill of Rights is that my, your, or anyone's sensibilities are not a good and wise pillars of good governance.
So, by all means, provide me an example where strict scrutiny is not applied to a Constitutional right, and I glad that a lesser standard is used.
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