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Lt Col Charlie Brown
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Looks reasonable
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Lt Col Charlie Brown
Lt Col Charlie Brown
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I do wish he hadn't pardoned the member before the trial
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CW3 David Covey
CW3 David Covey
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Lt Col Charlie Brown - Kinda sorta agree. Only thing I would wonder about in the Majors case, is should the charges even have been brought against him.
I say that not knowing all the information. We send soldiers in with their hands tied and expect to win. Never really knowing who is who. As an example, friendlies shooting up or blowing up rear areas where they have supposedly been vetted. I would find it very difficult to condemn a lot that happens in a war.
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LTC John Mohor
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Lt Col Charlie Brown after charges are made again after a first trial it seems reasonable to me.
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LTC John Mohor
LTC John Mohor
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To pardon before the second trial that is
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1SG Signal Support Systems Specialist
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What a way to undermine the UCMJ. It is easy for any POTUS to "put their thumb on the scale" so to speak. The question is should they and under what circumstances. Trying to score points with a political base are not the right circumstances IMHO.
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SPC Casey Ashfield
SPC Casey Ashfield
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LTC John Mohor - Both Presidents issued pardons for Vietnam. I just picked one on accident instead of mentioning both. Thank you.
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SPC Casey Ashfield again, this has only to do with the current examples. Why you are digging to really old pardons can only mean you have no defense of the current pardon. Trump is my president. I am free to disagree if I please. If there were compelling reason for the pardon, I would agree with it. Now any future pardon by any president you will just have to be good with because that president wills it. So when there is a democrat president i expect you will agree with his/her pardon no matter what or else we could just say you dont like that president because of their decision.
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SPC Casey Ashfield
SPC Casey Ashfield
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"Any POTUS that undermines the UCMJ is wrong." Your words. I have said elsewhere in this discussion, I did not agree with Manning's sentence being commuted by President Obama. However I recognize the power of Presidential pardon as a privilege of the office. Claiming a Presidential Pardon violates the UCMJ, when in fact the President is the highest authority of the UCMJ, is incorrect.
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SPC Casey Ashfield I know what I said, i stand by it. Just because a president can do something does not make it right. Potus was advised against this decisions by senior military officials and rightly so. They like me do not agree this was the right move. I have not studied all of the presidential pardons but if the president undermined the UCMJ without cause as I believe it happened in this case, it was wrong. Hopefully that is clear.
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SPC Stewart Smith
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The amount of people commenting that this was right, and imply that obama commuting manning's sentence helps make it right, need to do some serious self reflection.
- Just because obama commuted the sentence of manning does not make it right for trump to pardon criminals of war; murderers of civilians/unarmed non combative personnel...
wow. really? Is your argument seriously 'well it was ok for obama to do it' ???
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