Posted on Feb 12, 2019
Fort Jackson drill sergeant who fell asleep behind the wheel and killed two soldiers pleads...
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00F: Drill Sergeant
Fort Jackson
Basic Training
Death
Court Martial
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Interesting.
Worked until 2100 night prior, reported 0500 day of accident, lives off post. Impossible to have gotten 8 hours rest (385-10).
Very quick search suggests Army traditionally only uses negligent homicide for incidents involving negligent discharge of firearms and alcohol related vehicle accidents.
Related story shows he allegedly was forced to move off post due to his spouse showing up in the BN area, resulting in a transfer to a new unit and a recommendation that he should not remain on DS status.
Wonder how that decision maker feels about the decision to have him remain on DS status?
Worked until 2100 night prior, reported 0500 day of accident, lives off post. Impossible to have gotten 8 hours rest (385-10).
Very quick search suggests Army traditionally only uses negligent homicide for incidents involving negligent discharge of firearms and alcohol related vehicle accidents.
Related story shows he allegedly was forced to move off post due to his spouse showing up in the BN area, resulting in a transfer to a new unit and a recommendation that he should not remain on DS status.
Wonder how that decision maker feels about the decision to have him remain on DS status?
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It honestly wouldn't have mattered if he was kept on Drill status or not, Top. He (Or anyone else, for that matter) could have been grabbed for this regardless of duty position or readiness status (coming from someone who just got out because of Fort Jackson and this sort of commonplace nonsense.
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Understand, but disagree.
This was an avoidable accident, for the stated reasons. However, everyone made the decisions based on information I don't know.
Tragic.
Understand, but disagree.
This was an avoidable accident, for the stated reasons. However, everyone made the decisions based on information I don't know.
Tragic.
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1SG (Join to see) I completely agree. It was absolutely avoidable. What I was saying was that keeping the cat on Drill status wouldn't have made a difference. He still would have stayed an NCO for the company, he would have still been pulling CQ and he would still have been yanked for the driver detail. It was a HUGE oversight and and act of pure negligence by all parties involved. But this type of thing is commonplace at Fort Jackson, and not at all surprising. This is part of the reason I got out; just to get away from Fort Jackson. Most of the post (stemming from leadership at Battalion level and below) is toxic, bears a general apathetic and dismissive mentality for soldiers (often to the point of resulting in serious harm and injury to subordinates), and a self-serving manner of performance where leadership walks on the backs of their subordinates to accomplish their own goals whilst completely disregarding the goals, needs and progression of this placed under their charge.
It's a poor situation as a whole with exceptions to this rule being few and far between. After being there for just over 4 years, I came to know every unit and most of the leadership therein, and as a general rule, Fort Jackson is the place that motivated soldiers and their respective careers go to die. It's tragic, it's sad, and it needs to change, but in a culture where you have no voice if you are under the rank of SSG (and then only sparingly), there isn't much to be done about it. This is sadly a prime example of what happens when soldiers aren't taken care of by leadership: people get hurt or worse, and usually not the uncared for soldier themself.
Not by any means disagreeing with you, 1SG. I'm only pointing out the larger issue behind this one. Its not an isolated incident, nor an uncommon one. This is only one piece of a much bigger picture, and a culture that is slowly destroying our Armed Forces.
It's a poor situation as a whole with exceptions to this rule being few and far between. After being there for just over 4 years, I came to know every unit and most of the leadership therein, and as a general rule, Fort Jackson is the place that motivated soldiers and their respective careers go to die. It's tragic, it's sad, and it needs to change, but in a culture where you have no voice if you are under the rank of SSG (and then only sparingly), there isn't much to be done about it. This is sadly a prime example of what happens when soldiers aren't taken care of by leadership: people get hurt or worse, and usually not the uncared for soldier themself.
Not by any means disagreeing with you, 1SG. I'm only pointing out the larger issue behind this one. Its not an isolated incident, nor an uncommon one. This is only one piece of a much bigger picture, and a culture that is slowly destroying our Armed Forces.
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I had a policy that soldiers in a bind due to traveling late at night and early in the morning can call in and apprise me of the situation.
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