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And this is the start of a much needed conversation about pain. BTW, life is NOT pain free. It is pain managed: physical, mental and/or emotional. I am sure someone will get angry with me but if you are living not just breathing, sometimes there is something that has to be accepted.
You're wrong. Pain is not a vital sign.
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Some people deal with near constant pain including those with Fibromyalgia, Lupus, and in my case post-herpetic neuralgia. I was diagnosed with adult-onset diabetes at age 60. One of the side effects of diabetes is loss of nerve sensation in the extremities Lt Col Charlie Brown .
Pleasure and pain are transmitted to the mind via the same nerve system and receptors.
Pain helps us avoid making mistakes which can be hazardous or fatal. For constant pain, I prefer spikes or changes as opposed to dull throbbing and intense pain :-)
Our responses to pain help medical personnel diagnose and treat us. People are not perfect. In 1988 I was diagnosed with pneumonia and pleurisy while I was stationed at Fort Benning. Actually I had shingles and a prostate infection. By the grace of God a tired youth pastor anointed me with oil and prayed over me and the healing process began in earnest.
FYI COL Mikel J. Burroughs LTC Orlando Illi Maj Bill Smith, Ph.D. Maj William W. "Bill" Price CPT Jack Durish Capt Tom Brown CMSgt (Join to see) MSG Andrew White SFC William Farrell SGT (Join to see) Sgt Albert Castro SSG David Andrews Sgt Randy Wilber Sgt John H. SGT Charles H. Hawes SGT Mark Halmrast PO1 William "Chip" Nagel CPT Gabe SnellLTC Greg Henning
Pleasure and pain are transmitted to the mind via the same nerve system and receptors.
Pain helps us avoid making mistakes which can be hazardous or fatal. For constant pain, I prefer spikes or changes as opposed to dull throbbing and intense pain :-)
Our responses to pain help medical personnel diagnose and treat us. People are not perfect. In 1988 I was diagnosed with pneumonia and pleurisy while I was stationed at Fort Benning. Actually I had shingles and a prostate infection. By the grace of God a tired youth pastor anointed me with oil and prayed over me and the healing process began in earnest.
FYI COL Mikel J. Burroughs LTC Orlando Illi Maj Bill Smith, Ph.D. Maj William W. "Bill" Price CPT Jack Durish Capt Tom Brown CMSgt (Join to see) MSG Andrew White SFC William Farrell SGT (Join to see) Sgt Albert Castro SSG David Andrews Sgt Randy Wilber Sgt John H. SGT Charles H. Hawes SGT Mark Halmrast PO1 William "Chip" Nagel CPT Gabe SnellLTC Greg Henning
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Lt Col Charlie Brown
LTC Stephen F. , I have missed diagnosis stories as well. Truthfully if I hadn't been in so much pain, I wouldn't have kept pushing for the right diagnosis and treatment
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Lt Col Charlie Brown, I will neither agree or disagree with this article. Pain is subjective, meaning whatever the person says it is, right or wrong. We have no objective method of actually measuring pain. Every individual has their own pain tolerance. I know from both sides of the equation about pain. It is correct to say that pain medication does not cure the pain, and I would agree that long term use of opioids is almost never the answer. I would, however, add the caveat that those with terminal, painful diseases deserve to be treated as best that we can to make them comfortable, even with opiods.
In most instances, there are alternatives to make pain manageable, and that is what the article talks about. That I do agree with.
In most instances, there are alternatives to make pain manageable, and that is what the article talks about. That I do agree with.
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Lt Col Charlie Brown
Exceptions make poor law and worse medicine. When you have a terminal condition, pills don't work. You need an IV or a pump. This is what palliative care and/or hospice is for.
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Maj Robert Thornton
IV/IM is what I was referring to. I wholeheartedly am against the use of long term oral opiods.
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I understand. I just spent the last 18 months walking on a necrotic hip. Before that it was a mass on my spinal cord that came with a week or two of permanently paralyzing me. There are other alternatives to increasing amounts of narcotics in most cases. Most of us need to live with pain the scale up to 3 or 4. The older you get, the truer this is
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Lt Col Charlie Brown
Me too. It was a constant 7-8. I just got worn out. However, for me drugs are not a solution.
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Lt Col Charlie Brown
SPC Douglas Bolton - I am sorry to hear that. Back surgeries are problematic. Mine was successful but it was a very large mass and not a collapsed disk or anything like that. Some people find acupuncture helpful and there is now a laser treatment for nerve pain. Keep researching...
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