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SFC Inprocessing
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This is a waste of time and a huge waste of money....

I finished my time as a Senior Drill Sergeant last year and I will tell you, no amount of training that we can do at Ft. Benning will have Privates combat ready.

This is happened mainly because units complain about the quality of Soldiers being produced, but they are trained to standard. The leaders that complained just want someone else to do their job.

They could make the training 12 months and the Privates will still have to be trained by the units that they’re assigned to.

Ft. Benning is not a production site for super Soldeirs... it’s just that simple.
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SGT English/Language Arts Teacher
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I was infantry trained at Ft Polk. I was assigned to a regular line unit. When I got to my regular unit, I had no problems integrating. As you said, the experience gained in a line unit is incomparable.
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SFC Tom Jones
SFC Tom Jones
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Well I have to agree 100% with you! Being a former Drill Sergeant, sniper, 11B 11M, 19D, and worked other areas, been in combat, and served time in Berlin when we were 125 miles inside East Germany so with that I will state this from experience. While assigned to Berlin we spit shined everything from jeeps, to tanks, stood inspections with about 3 other country's and then reenlisted and went to Fort Ord Cal and I really thought I had died cause people did not take pride in anything. So the bottom line is this. In BCT you learn how to do everything from learning how to wash cloths, to making a bed, and working as a unit. A team not as a single person. The units have different missions, and it is up to the team, squad, platoon and company to train them for what there mission are. Cause when the bullets are flying no matter what you teach them in basic or AIT it comes down to the team and squad leader you makes it happen. Fort Benning is a training site from Basic to Air Borne to Ranger, to 11 Mikes sniper school there is no fricking way they can turn out super soldiers that comes from the person.
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SFC Tom Jones
SFC Tom Jones
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Now on other hand I really do think that the Army needs to do like the Marines do and that is everyone learns how to be a grunt, and yes that means the females also.
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Sgt Wayne Wood
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“... practice key infantry skills such as land navigation, marksmanship, hand-to-hand combat, fire and maneuver and first aid training. “

If they have expand Grunt training to teach those subjects, what are they learning now?

Sensitivity training?
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SPC Infantryman
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You mean catching mail before it made it through the window, and recreating my bunk outside one piece at a time weren't key skills?
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LTC Eugene Chu
LTC Eugene Chu
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They are teaching them those subjects. In fact, Army basic training has lengthened over the decades. I once heard that basic training in Vietnam years was only six weeks. My basic back in late 90s was nine weeks.

Issue may be either retention of too much knowledge all at once or units performing them differently than what was taught in basic training.
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Sgt Wayne Wood
Sgt Wayne Wood
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LTC Eugene Chu either way you look at it, you’re doing it wrong.

Doing it wrong for double the time isn’t an improvement...
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LTC Eugene Chu
LTC Eugene Chu
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PO3 Bob McCord - Are you double counting?

Boot camp and rating school are as different as basic training and AIT for Army. This article specifically talks about OSUT (Combined basic training and MOS training for Army combat arms)
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CPL Dave Hoover
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SGT (Join to see) I think it's a very good thing, I think they should add at least 3 weeks of infantry training to ALL MOS's
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