Posted on Jan 11, 2018
Army general loses star for calling female staffer 'sweetheart'
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There has to be more to the story. He is not the first military general to piss off folks on the Hill.
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I think that this individual has a point.
gitarcarver says:
December 31, 2017 at 12:19 pm
I can agree to some extent that the General’s actions may not have been the best.
However, are you really suggesting that a staffer has the right or the ability to tell a general what to do? That somehow a staffer – not a Representative – is in the General’s chain of command?
If Langevin wanted to direct the general, meet with the General.
I doubt seriously that a staffer acted like a ‘condescending know it all bitch’, but if she was, keep in mind that she was there at the direction of a member of Congress and the House Armed Services Committee- the guys with the authority and responsibility to oversee the Armed Services.
She was not there as a member of Congress. Don’t equate staff with the Congressional member.
You think she wasn’t acting in a “condescending manner.” While I respect your opinion, do you think it is appropriate for a staffer to tell a General – or any member of the armed services – what they should do? Do you think the staffer is at an informational meeting to give directions rather than to, oh, I don’t know,….gather information?
I don’t know if you read part or all of the article, but the staffer returned to the office and didn’t say anything. After the Stars and Stripes reported on Gonsalves’ possible nomination to command USAREUR, the “professional staffer” took to FACEBOOK to complain about Gonsalves.
Let me repeat that. She went on FACEBOOK.
If that is the type of professionalism the staffer has, and her being on a staff of a member of Congress is indicative of the judgement of the member of Congress, we are in deep trouble.
No one – and I mean no one – should have to suffer fools lightly.
If the staffer was offended by the General’s actions, then she should be a professional and say something at the time. Instead, she acted like she was in junior high and passed a note about it and then posted on Facebook.
If you object to the way you are being treated, say something then and there.
Gonslves may have made a mistake, but he was probably used to dealing with competent professionals, not childish people with an overvalued sense of worth.
gitarcarver says:
December 31, 2017 at 1:15 pm
No one is suggesting that she has the authority to give orders to a general,
The staffer is and you seem to be defending her.
and I’m not equating staff with member of Congress.
Actually, you are. At least in the area that you think that a staffer is acting on behest of the Congressman, and has the same authority to tell a member of the armed forces (or even the public) what to do. Otherwise, her direction was inappropriate at the very least.
However, staffers should be treated with the Knox that they are etrbehalf of their primal- and at the dry least according to protocol
You do understand that protocol of events and meetings are two different things, right?
What evidence do you have hat she was acting like a fool?
Read the article. Rinse, Repeat.
Are you really going to Martha use of social media when we have a president that uses Twitter to make policy Statements?
Ah yes…. the ol’ second grade excuse of “but they did it too!”
For the record, Trump seldom has the people he tweets about in front of him. People that have met with him say that he is as direct in person as he is his tweets.
Secondly, are you trying to equate the childish rantings of a staffer with policy statements?
If you think that a person who made no complaints about the activities or alleged actions of someone in a meeting and waited until a later time when they could make an accusation of Facebook shows any type of professionalism, then there is very little for us to discuss or agree on.
She had Gonsalves sitting in front of her. If she objected to his conduct, she should have said so. That’s the professional thing to do.
Instead, she passed a note and posted comments to social media AFTER it came out the general was being looked at for a promotion.
(BTW – did you hear that Bobby likes Cindy but Cindy really likes Joey and that makes Mary mad because she wanted Timmy to take her to the dance?)
You seem to be locked into the idea that the General was wrong, but the staffer was totally right and professional.
The general may be wrong, but she needs to grow up and deal with issues in a professional manner.
http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=76839
gitarcarver says:
December 31, 2017 at 12:19 pm
I can agree to some extent that the General’s actions may not have been the best.
However, are you really suggesting that a staffer has the right or the ability to tell a general what to do? That somehow a staffer – not a Representative – is in the General’s chain of command?
If Langevin wanted to direct the general, meet with the General.
I doubt seriously that a staffer acted like a ‘condescending know it all bitch’, but if she was, keep in mind that she was there at the direction of a member of Congress and the House Armed Services Committee- the guys with the authority and responsibility to oversee the Armed Services.
She was not there as a member of Congress. Don’t equate staff with the Congressional member.
You think she wasn’t acting in a “condescending manner.” While I respect your opinion, do you think it is appropriate for a staffer to tell a General – or any member of the armed services – what they should do? Do you think the staffer is at an informational meeting to give directions rather than to, oh, I don’t know,….gather information?
I don’t know if you read part or all of the article, but the staffer returned to the office and didn’t say anything. After the Stars and Stripes reported on Gonsalves’ possible nomination to command USAREUR, the “professional staffer” took to FACEBOOK to complain about Gonsalves.
Let me repeat that. She went on FACEBOOK.
If that is the type of professionalism the staffer has, and her being on a staff of a member of Congress is indicative of the judgement of the member of Congress, we are in deep trouble.
No one – and I mean no one – should have to suffer fools lightly.
If the staffer was offended by the General’s actions, then she should be a professional and say something at the time. Instead, she acted like she was in junior high and passed a note about it and then posted on Facebook.
If you object to the way you are being treated, say something then and there.
Gonslves may have made a mistake, but he was probably used to dealing with competent professionals, not childish people with an overvalued sense of worth.
gitarcarver says:
December 31, 2017 at 1:15 pm
No one is suggesting that she has the authority to give orders to a general,
The staffer is and you seem to be defending her.
and I’m not equating staff with member of Congress.
Actually, you are. At least in the area that you think that a staffer is acting on behest of the Congressman, and has the same authority to tell a member of the armed forces (or even the public) what to do. Otherwise, her direction was inappropriate at the very least.
However, staffers should be treated with the Knox that they are etrbehalf of their primal- and at the dry least according to protocol
You do understand that protocol of events and meetings are two different things, right?
What evidence do you have hat she was acting like a fool?
Read the article. Rinse, Repeat.
Are you really going to Martha use of social media when we have a president that uses Twitter to make policy Statements?
Ah yes…. the ol’ second grade excuse of “but they did it too!”
For the record, Trump seldom has the people he tweets about in front of him. People that have met with him say that he is as direct in person as he is his tweets.
Secondly, are you trying to equate the childish rantings of a staffer with policy statements?
If you think that a person who made no complaints about the activities or alleged actions of someone in a meeting and waited until a later time when they could make an accusation of Facebook shows any type of professionalism, then there is very little for us to discuss or agree on.
She had Gonsalves sitting in front of her. If she objected to his conduct, she should have said so. That’s the professional thing to do.
Instead, she passed a note and posted comments to social media AFTER it came out the general was being looked at for a promotion.
(BTW – did you hear that Bobby likes Cindy but Cindy really likes Joey and that makes Mary mad because she wanted Timmy to take her to the dance?)
You seem to be locked into the idea that the General was wrong, but the staffer was totally right and professional.
The general may be wrong, but she needs to grow up and deal with issues in a professional manner.
http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=76839
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Col Joseph Lenertz
Yes, agree. In VIP/SAM airlift, we run into good and bad junior Congressional staffers. Nearly all senior staff are professional and courteous. I've always been impressed with senior staff's willingness to demonstrate mutual respect. A few of the junior staffers allow themselves to wear their Congressman's rank, and lose their professionalism. Often all it takes is a genuine (and private) conversation to correct.
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