Posted on Nov 1, 2017
Planned Parenthood Encourages 'Black Women in America' To Choose Abortion Over Pregnancy
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*sigh* I really don't understand why people feel the need to lie about verifiable facts.
First, that one tweet was one in a series. So if you only read that one, it sounds like they're encouraging abortion.
What you don't see is the final tweet in that series that points out the fact that black women are more likely to die without access to quality health care, for several reasons. Independent research will tell you the same thing if you decide to check.
"Maternal deaths for Black women span age, education and income level. Racism, lack of access to quality health care and poverty kill us."
So with context, they're suggesting that maternal care for black mothers is more likely to result in maternal death than modern abortion, which shouldn't be the case.
They end their message by telling followers to tell Trump and Republicans to protect healthcare because they shouldn't have to die if they choose to have a child.
Context matters.
First, that one tweet was one in a series. So if you only read that one, it sounds like they're encouraging abortion.
What you don't see is the final tweet in that series that points out the fact that black women are more likely to die without access to quality health care, for several reasons. Independent research will tell you the same thing if you decide to check.
"Maternal deaths for Black women span age, education and income level. Racism, lack of access to quality health care and poverty kill us."
So with context, they're suggesting that maternal care for black mothers is more likely to result in maternal death than modern abortion, which shouldn't be the case.
They end their message by telling followers to tell Trump and Republicans to protect healthcare because they shouldn't have to die if they choose to have a child.
Context matters.
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CPO Glenn Moss
The problem with statistics is that the vast majority of the population evidently fails to understand statistics in the first place, which leads to easily manipulated ignorance.
And one does not have to have been a math major to shoot holes in a lot of "statistics" in the first place.
Take the first statement above: "If you're a Black woman in America, it's statistically safer to have an abortion than to carry a pregnancy to term or give birth".
While I'll take it a face value, Jessica, that the thread this came from was talking about disproportionate medical care and the like, the thread itself starts out with a line of statistical BS, and deliberately so. Why? Because it's statistically safer for ALL women, regardless of race, to have an abortion than to carry a pregnancy to term or give birth.
And while I understand this entire thread was necessarily limited in scope due to the Twitter text limitations, I rather imagine that there's a shocking misuse of statistical rate differences on many levels. For example, if they were to make a statement that a certain pregnancy risk factor for black women is 5 times that of white women, what is that actual statistic for white women? If it's, say, 1 out of every 10,000 for white women, that that means is that it's 5 out of every 10,000 for black women. Which would STILL be a very low rate overall.
Statistics vary widely for a lot of reasons other than medical care, too. For example, early teen pregnancies carry a higher risk than for women in late teens or older, well up into their 30's. Simply addressing that disparity would go a long way towards the overall leveling out of statistical disparities between black and white women.
And, while I'm sure the overall statistics DO show a disparity between black and white women (if for no other reason than I've googled various sources on this), this doesn't change one, very important, fact about abortions overall...namely that the vast majority of them AREN'T done for medical reasons, they're done as a matter of convenience with respect to birth control.
And one does not have to have been a math major to shoot holes in a lot of "statistics" in the first place.
Take the first statement above: "If you're a Black woman in America, it's statistically safer to have an abortion than to carry a pregnancy to term or give birth".
While I'll take it a face value, Jessica, that the thread this came from was talking about disproportionate medical care and the like, the thread itself starts out with a line of statistical BS, and deliberately so. Why? Because it's statistically safer for ALL women, regardless of race, to have an abortion than to carry a pregnancy to term or give birth.
And while I understand this entire thread was necessarily limited in scope due to the Twitter text limitations, I rather imagine that there's a shocking misuse of statistical rate differences on many levels. For example, if they were to make a statement that a certain pregnancy risk factor for black women is 5 times that of white women, what is that actual statistic for white women? If it's, say, 1 out of every 10,000 for white women, that that means is that it's 5 out of every 10,000 for black women. Which would STILL be a very low rate overall.
Statistics vary widely for a lot of reasons other than medical care, too. For example, early teen pregnancies carry a higher risk than for women in late teens or older, well up into their 30's. Simply addressing that disparity would go a long way towards the overall leveling out of statistical disparities between black and white women.
And, while I'm sure the overall statistics DO show a disparity between black and white women (if for no other reason than I've googled various sources on this), this doesn't change one, very important, fact about abortions overall...namely that the vast majority of them AREN'T done for medical reasons, they're done as a matter of convenience with respect to birth control.
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SSG Jessica Bautista
MSgt Kurt S.,CPO Glenn Moss
Gentlemen, I know when we discuss abortion, it's difficult to get away from the issue of terminating a pregnancy. However (comma, pause...) I submit that the only thing proven effective in decreasing abortion rates is birth control. So if pro-lifers want a solution that works, all women absolutely need increased access to reproductive health services.
Gentlemen, I know when we discuss abortion, it's difficult to get away from the issue of terminating a pregnancy. However (comma, pause...) I submit that the only thing proven effective in decreasing abortion rates is birth control. So if pro-lifers want a solution that works, all women absolutely need increased access to reproductive health services.
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CPO Glenn Moss
SSG Jessica Bautista - Well...of COURSE it's difficult to get away from the issue of terminating a pregnancy when discussing abortion! :)
And you're comment is loaded with merit.
HOWEVER (comma, pause...) the major problem with "unwanted pregnancies" (and I use quotes sarcastically here, because it's quite plain that a huge chunk of unwanted pregnancies are due to ignorance, stupidity, or an actual willful intent to get pregnant despite what is said) is that the majority of these "unwanted pregnancies" come about NOT due to limited access to reproductive health services.
Contrary to popular opinion amongst a rather significant portion of the population in this country, birth control is NOT rocket science. There are so many practical, viable options out there, many of which require very little, if any, actual financial hardship to obtain/use, that the "unwanted pregnancy" rates in this country is inexcusable.
Going back to the basics...engaging in sexual intercourse is, by definition, an adult activity. Part of being an adult is understanding and accepting responsibility for one's actions. With respect to sexual intercourse, ANY act of sexual intercourse MAY result in pregnancy REGARDLESS of the form of birth control used (sterility not withstanding).
SO...engaging in sexual intercourse is tacit acceptance of the potential consequences which come along with that adult activity. I submit that if one is not ready to accept responsibility for the potential consequences of this particular adult behavior, then one has no business in engaging in that behavior in the first place. This is the hallmark of a responsible adult. Mother Nature cares little for one's personal ignorance, willful or otherwise. We, as a species, pride ourselves on our intelligence over our animal cousins...a shame that this seems to be misplaced with so many.
As for cost...I also submit that if one cannot afford $7 for a 12 pack of Trojan condoms at the local Walmart, then one is likewise not prepared to accept the potential consequences of this particular adult behavior. After all, it's hardly fiscally debilitating for such forms of birth control.
Also, it's utterly appalling to me the absolute willful ignorance so many women have in their own reproductive biology. Tie this with either a lack of responsible control over their personal sexual behavior or an I-don't-care attitude over their own personal sexual behavior, and what you have is a rather significant fraction of women (especially young teens) who end up with an "unwanted pregnancy".
There are MANY forms of birth control, from free to costly. And citing the relative effectiveness of any one form of birth control does NOT belie the fact that using more than one form of birth control radically increases the overall effectiveness. For example, used correctly condoms are 98% effective. Used correctly, natural family planning is similarly effective. Used together? As in "Not now, this is my fertile period!", it's even more effective than the highest rate of effectiveness for birth control pills.
There are about 15 different forms of birth control out there...condoms, birth control pills, IUD, diaphragm, spermacides, etc. Birth control simply isn't THAT expensive, or hard to get.
ALL THAT SAID...none of this means that I believe all "unwanted pregnancies" are the results of some combination of the things I posted here. Far from it, in fact. It's bound to happen. I'm saying that in a society such as ours, with the supposed education and resources we have on the subject, the actual "unwanted pregnancy" rate is inexcusably high largely because of inexcusable PERSONAL behavior.
And you're comment is loaded with merit.
HOWEVER (comma, pause...) the major problem with "unwanted pregnancies" (and I use quotes sarcastically here, because it's quite plain that a huge chunk of unwanted pregnancies are due to ignorance, stupidity, or an actual willful intent to get pregnant despite what is said) is that the majority of these "unwanted pregnancies" come about NOT due to limited access to reproductive health services.
Contrary to popular opinion amongst a rather significant portion of the population in this country, birth control is NOT rocket science. There are so many practical, viable options out there, many of which require very little, if any, actual financial hardship to obtain/use, that the "unwanted pregnancy" rates in this country is inexcusable.
Going back to the basics...engaging in sexual intercourse is, by definition, an adult activity. Part of being an adult is understanding and accepting responsibility for one's actions. With respect to sexual intercourse, ANY act of sexual intercourse MAY result in pregnancy REGARDLESS of the form of birth control used (sterility not withstanding).
SO...engaging in sexual intercourse is tacit acceptance of the potential consequences which come along with that adult activity. I submit that if one is not ready to accept responsibility for the potential consequences of this particular adult behavior, then one has no business in engaging in that behavior in the first place. This is the hallmark of a responsible adult. Mother Nature cares little for one's personal ignorance, willful or otherwise. We, as a species, pride ourselves on our intelligence over our animal cousins...a shame that this seems to be misplaced with so many.
As for cost...I also submit that if one cannot afford $7 for a 12 pack of Trojan condoms at the local Walmart, then one is likewise not prepared to accept the potential consequences of this particular adult behavior. After all, it's hardly fiscally debilitating for such forms of birth control.
Also, it's utterly appalling to me the absolute willful ignorance so many women have in their own reproductive biology. Tie this with either a lack of responsible control over their personal sexual behavior or an I-don't-care attitude over their own personal sexual behavior, and what you have is a rather significant fraction of women (especially young teens) who end up with an "unwanted pregnancy".
There are MANY forms of birth control, from free to costly. And citing the relative effectiveness of any one form of birth control does NOT belie the fact that using more than one form of birth control radically increases the overall effectiveness. For example, used correctly condoms are 98% effective. Used correctly, natural family planning is similarly effective. Used together? As in "Not now, this is my fertile period!", it's even more effective than the highest rate of effectiveness for birth control pills.
There are about 15 different forms of birth control out there...condoms, birth control pills, IUD, diaphragm, spermacides, etc. Birth control simply isn't THAT expensive, or hard to get.
ALL THAT SAID...none of this means that I believe all "unwanted pregnancies" are the results of some combination of the things I posted here. Far from it, in fact. It's bound to happen. I'm saying that in a society such as ours, with the supposed education and resources we have on the subject, the actual "unwanted pregnancy" rate is inexcusably high largely because of inexcusable PERSONAL behavior.
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SPC Michael Tierney
CPO Glenn Moss - If there were 500 forms of birth control and schools all taught reproductive health classes and everyone had to pass a test, there would still be plenty of unwanted pregnancies. Women should have the option to terminate those pregnancies without judgmental men trying to dictate their maternal preference.
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Yes but now congress is cutting the money supply they need to advertise more and remind there target demographic that they are still around to prey on them.
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SPC Michael Duricko, Ph.D
SSG (Join to see) Unfortunately, Congress is controlled by the Left and abortion supporters. Let's all change that on election day!
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How sick is that? .....and thank you Dear Lord for keeping that deranged women out of the White House.
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