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CW3 Harvey K.
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I have often voiced the opinion that a mass-murderer's use of gunfire may strangely enough be a blessing in disguise.
One need only consider the body counts in mass-murders that are NOT mass-shootings. The combination of fuel oil and fertilizer, or fireworks and pressure-cookers, or box-cutters and airplanes, even the use of a truck to slaughter 80 people in Nice, FR, is proof of the relative inefficiency of firearms for such mass-slaughter.
But we will never see such an admission by the gun-hating Media. Their target will always be guns. It would be too callous for them to direct their attention to the human perpetrators of mass-MURDER. They must restrict themselves to seeing only the tools of mass-SHOOTERS.
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MSgt Nondestructive Inspection (NDI)
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How many would have died if the vegas shooter had flown his small plane loaded with fuel and explosives into the crowd instead?
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CW3 Harvey K.
CW3 Harvey K.
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Thought I'd pass this on from another site I frequent.
"Indeed, if guns hadn't been available to the killer, he might have rented a
large truck, crashed it through the festival's perimeter fence, and killed
far more people by plowing through the trapped crowd.

And if he had rented a certain kind of pesticide sprayer, and if he had
filled its tank with gasoline, he could have sprayed the entire crowd and
set them on fire, killing thousands and maiming thousands more.

I think it's better that we leave guns easy to get lest we prompt mass
killers to think creatively. Taking hundreds of millions of guns away from
tens of millions of law-abiding Americans will not stop the next sick-sad
mass killer from killing. It would only shake up his tactics, and he might
hit on something far *far* worse."

Cheers,

-- Jeff Fisher ><> Vancouver WA
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MSG John Wirts
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Edited 7 y ago
Truly my experience in the active army in Norway visiting my relatives. The Norwegians and the Swiss had universal service and sent personal weapons home with their reservists. They sent what the person's skill called for, pistol, carbine, sub machine gun, select fire rifle. These countries had very low violent crime! Germany had the strictest anti-gun laws. The Germans could own a gun, but it had to be stored in a gun locker art a gun club. The owner could only get to the gun on a shooting day with police present, or if the German had a hunting license, he had to contact the police officer member of the club to arrange to get his rifle, and be escorted to the forest to meet the forestmeister who would escort him to a shooting stand. The forestmeister would check the hunting license to see which animal the license was for. He would wait until those animals came within range and point out which animal to shoot. If the hunter wanted trophies and or meat that had to be purchased from the forestmeister. when hunting was over the hunter was escorted out of the forest, turned over to police officer, taken back to the gun club, and the gun was secured in the gun locker at the club! Despite this strict control violent crime was high in Germany. My observation is that possession of guns leads to low crime rates. The criminals don't know who has guns there so they go to where there is gun control, the police are the major worry there.
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SSG Paul Headlee
SSG Paul Headlee
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I was at Wiesbaden AB during ’81 and’82. We’d be in the field, training, and get Intel reports that the Baader-Meinhof Gang was operating nearby and had taken M-16 rifles from U.S. troops. We we instructed to travel in pairs, report suspicious activity, yada yada yada. Everyone knew we carried our issued weapons with us but without any live ammunition. That is precisely why the BMG targeted U.S. troops. What an easy way to gather M-16s! Same principle as the “sensitive area”. Little to no risk for the predator, absolutely unacceptable situation for the potential victims.
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SFC Dave Beran
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Good article. Especially the point that it decreases accuracy. Took a class once with some 5SF instructors. Showed in the ineffectiveness of the spray and pray method over controlled shooting. Big difference. But you average civilian type does not know this. Also a good point about how most of these should have been stopped or could have, if law enforcement was allowed to do their job.
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SSG Paul Headlee
SSG Paul Headlee
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Before we got the three round burst A2s, I always attempted to fire a two round burst when automatic fire was indicated because it was obvious that after that second round fired you had no clue where the next eight to ten were going. When you carry everything you’re going to get for a battle on your back it becomes obvious that you’d better conserve ammunition and at least try to make every shot count. The bump stock is nothing more than a range toy that an experienced shooter will probably not consider seriously.
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