Posted on May 15, 2017
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DA Pam 670-1
Army Times
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One reason the Army retired the pinks & greens when they went to the all ranks greens (that they just phased out!) was to NOT have an elitist, class divisive separate uniform for officers in the more egalitarian years after WW2/Korea. Pinks and greens now would have to be for all ranks. And regardless of of the details, it's reintroduction would be a clear rejection of the new Army blue uniform.
Don't misunderstand me. I personally love the pinks and greens. But I think the Army seems to have some type of mental illness on uniforms. The debacle with that gray cammie uniform that they just fixed and now adopting the blue dress uniform for full time wear. Silliness. The dress uniform is meant to be special, not for every day. Anyway, they'll do what DA wants and whatever will cement the legacy of the current SMA & CofS. Shinseki redux.
Really glad the Corps doesn't have that problem.
Don't misunderstand me. I personally love the pinks and greens. But I think the Army seems to have some type of mental illness on uniforms. The debacle with that gray cammie uniform that they just fixed and now adopting the blue dress uniform for full time wear. Silliness. The dress uniform is meant to be special, not for every day. Anyway, they'll do what DA wants and whatever will cement the legacy of the current SMA & CofS. Shinseki redux.
Really glad the Corps doesn't have that problem.
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SFC Thomas Howes
I think all the branch have a mental issue on uniforms. I work for the Navy now and the dress whites for enlisted E1 to E6 went back to the blue piping on the sleeves and flap. Now I do rememeber my day ahd that back in WWII, and the marines are looking at changing there cammies again the only uniform that has not changed much is the Marine blues and dress unitform other then I here a lot of Marine complaining about how females can were the new famel blues that look like the males but hell I don't care lol. Now I would like the Army khakies to come back they were a nice summer uniform.
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CPT Larry Hudson
Agreed. Somehow the dress blues as service uniform deminishes its origional purpose of being for special occasions.
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Now on the new uniform I like it but let the AIRBORNE wear the brown boots with then. Also bring back the khakies that was a nice summer uniform.
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The AF under General Tony McPeak. Tries to go to a " Airline Pilot" look 3 buttonsrank was worn on the sleeve like the Airlines. Ruined our class A blues. More reciently some idiot proposed a dress uniform with stand up collar, like the Marines wear except theirs looke great. In AF blue it was awful some people think "Change =Progress." Wrong
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MSgt J D McKee
I was in during that time. Was he the one that decided to try to run the AF like a Japanese car factory? With "customers"? Or was that someone else? What I won't forget, seriously, is that there were some stone idiots masquerading as leaders in, well, my military experience, anyway. Here's what I mean:
'New BDU's say "don't starch, bleach, iron etc" in the '80's. My job was Security, and starched, ironed BDU's were the big deal, along with spit-shined boots.
Yeah, right, starch and iron made you GLOW in the infrared, some of you know what i mean with the ANPVS7 especially. Difference between night and day, actually, difference between brilliant glowing very light green almost white, and muddy dark unnoticeable green. I raised this until I was tired of raising it. I finally gave up and said fuck it, because all our current enemies are too stupid to use night vision much, but I kept 4 sets for deployment that never got starched or ironed and not washed that often either. I'm sure everyone now knows about the brighteners put in modern detergents that are particularly efficient in the IR, but at the time, it just didn't matter. For one thing, I guess many people thought we'd never go to war again during the Cold War era.
'New BDU's say "don't starch, bleach, iron etc" in the '80's. My job was Security, and starched, ironed BDU's were the big deal, along with spit-shined boots.
Yeah, right, starch and iron made you GLOW in the infrared, some of you know what i mean with the ANPVS7 especially. Difference between night and day, actually, difference between brilliant glowing very light green almost white, and muddy dark unnoticeable green. I raised this until I was tired of raising it. I finally gave up and said fuck it, because all our current enemies are too stupid to use night vision much, but I kept 4 sets for deployment that never got starched or ironed and not washed that often either. I'm sure everyone now knows about the brighteners put in modern detergents that are particularly efficient in the IR, but at the time, it just didn't matter. For one thing, I guess many people thought we'd never go to war again during the Cold War era.
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