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CPT Jack Durish
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Here is the problem. People want freedom from responsibility. What no one ever taught them (and this is the purpose of the civics classes that have been eliminated from our schools) every freedom comes with responsibility. Yeah, I'd complain too if I was handed a bill for an education that left me uneducated and ill prepared, without any marketable skills. Well, it's time to take responsibility for that decision, the one in which you signed on the dotted line. You want to be treated like an adult? Well, welcome to adultville
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PO3 Donald Murphy
PO3 Donald Murphy
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But to be fair, we then turn right around and bail out the big three, banks, etc. So what TRULY have we taught our kids? We've taught them that "yes, bailouts are to be expected." So while we rail at youth/millenials/snowflakes, etc, the truth of the matter is, we are Dr. Frankenstein staring at our creation and at the same time wondering loudly why its destroying everything. Where did *it* go wrong? Where indeed.
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CPT Jack Durish
CPT Jack Durish
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PO3 Donald Murphy to be fair there is a difference. We didn't force students to take out loans as banks were forced to make bad loans to home buyers who couldn't afford them. And the problems hit the fan when the agencies established to guarantee those loans became overextended.
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LTC Stephen C.
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I paid my student loan back, LTC (Join to see) I met my wife right after she completed graduate school and she's never worked, so I paid hers back while she raised our children.
I didn't ask for forgiveness then and I don't think kids should ask for it now.
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PO3 Steven Sherrill
PO3 Steven Sherrill
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LTC Stephen C. I have run out of thumbs for today.
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PO3 Donald Murphy
PO3 Donald Murphy
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PO3 Steven Sherrill - It changed when the emphasis changed. College football has its own televised events now, right? Well guess what? That "hometown rivalry game" on Fox or ABC has to be paid for. They need a new stadium. Etc. All of that costs money. Hence, rising tuition. Hard work? Doesn't exist. I need a degree to do my own job now. If I was a fresh out of high school kid wanting to do my job, I'd need a degree. Sports Medicine? Wasn't that the scrawny kid that handed the team towels and water bottles and sat on the bench? Well guess what? Thats a degree now! Too much of life requires college today. IT SHOULDN'T, but it does.

So its not that the kids are sitting at home randomly wanting to rack up debt. My 26 year old graduated high school, no college and became the only thing he could become: a server. I love the meme showing the dirty arm of a mechanic tightening a bolt on a car - "teach your kids that its okay to not go to college." Problem is, that "manual labor job" requires college. My son has had to go to college now. So its not our kids' work ethic. Its people our age deciding that you can't be a help desk technician or day care worker without a degree. The kids then have to get that degree which is not as cheap as when you and I were young.
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PO3 Steven Sherrill
PO3 Steven Sherrill
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PO3 Donald Murphy - I work in Information Technology. I find college degrees a funny thing. Because technology is advancing at such a fast pace, that IT Degree that one spends 50,000 on is obsolete within 10 years leaving the individual paying for a dead degree for the next 20 years. Vocational Schools used to be a thing. Learning a trade used to be a thing. I really believe a part of it is that employers with limited hiring potential need to cull the application pool, and that is as good a place to start as any. I am thankful. I was hired with a simple Microsoft Certification, and have been with my employer for 11 years. I am an IT Guy, but I have taken on a larger role in my company. In addition to IT, I oversee building maintenance. Right now I am in charge of a roofing project for our building. I have had no training or education in this, I had to learn on the fly. No degree, just keep pushing. I was one of the lucky ones.
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PO3 Donald Murphy
PO3 Donald Murphy
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PO3 Steven Sherrill - Preaching to the choir brother. I'm an MCP as well. An "IT" degree is worthless as the stuff is changing too fast. Yet, my former company demands an IT degree now. So sadly a lot of the "oh lets just go to tech school" jobs are going away or demanding a degree.
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PO1 Richard Cormier
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One still owes $80,000 after 10 years? Yeah. Get the TAXPAYERS to fund it. Loved the "news" program showing kids on Spring Break using their loan money for break vice school. I feel so sorry for them. I didn't go to college because I could NOT afford it. The US Congress cancelled the Vietnam GI bill October 1987 (I got out in August 1987). I still did OK. Raised two law abiding kids, have eight grand-kids. No one went hungry, always had a roof over their heads. Always paid my taxes. Didn't ask Uncle Sugar to pay for any of it (except my military pay when I was active of course.)

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CSM Charles Hayden
CSM Charles Hayden
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You deserve more up thumbs!!!!! PO1 Richard Cormier ANOTHER GREAT AMERICAN CITIZEN WHO ALSO SERVED THE NATION!
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