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This issue with Marines United isn't simply a "boys will be boys" or that they're "young, dumb, and full of cum" so it's just normal and natural that the marines did this. It isn't. There are literally millions of photos of nude women on the internet. There are dozens of porn sites where a "horny male" could view sex acts of every imaginable type with any type of woman he desires.
But marine united isn't about horny marines looking at nudes. It's about specifically targetting fellow marines in order to attempt to humiliate and denigrate them against their will. And it's not just by posting photos. They also post their names, unit of assignment and sometimes home addresses, along with comments about how they would like to rape them, etc. This isn't a normal guy doing guy things, and it hasnt always been that way.
This article tries to make this despicable act the moral equivalent of WWII soldiers ogling pinup girls. Hardly. And I have never accepted the "it takes rough guys to fight wars" excuse for things like pissing on dead bodies, or cutting off and collecting ears of dead enemy,. Things like that are signs of a unit that has lost its discipline, and it is dangerous. It's the same eroding away of discipline that leads to American soldiers lining up dozens of women and children in front of a ditch and machine gunning them to death in My Lai VN. And it goes against the very fabric that makes up the values we fight for.
So let's not pretend that this is just red blooded healthy American men doing what is natural and normal. It is far darker and more hateful than that.
But marine united isn't about horny marines looking at nudes. It's about specifically targetting fellow marines in order to attempt to humiliate and denigrate them against their will. And it's not just by posting photos. They also post their names, unit of assignment and sometimes home addresses, along with comments about how they would like to rape them, etc. This isn't a normal guy doing guy things, and it hasnt always been that way.
This article tries to make this despicable act the moral equivalent of WWII soldiers ogling pinup girls. Hardly. And I have never accepted the "it takes rough guys to fight wars" excuse for things like pissing on dead bodies, or cutting off and collecting ears of dead enemy,. Things like that are signs of a unit that has lost its discipline, and it is dangerous. It's the same eroding away of discipline that leads to American soldiers lining up dozens of women and children in front of a ditch and machine gunning them to death in My Lai VN. And it goes against the very fabric that makes up the values we fight for.
So let's not pretend that this is just red blooded healthy American men doing what is natural and normal. It is far darker and more hateful than that.
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SSgt (Join to see)
The story of My Lai VN "used" to be required teaching in the Corps. When I speak to the young Marines now, most don't know what it was, the story behind it, or the tragedy that came from it. And it is supposed to be part of the training on discerning the difference between a LEGAL order and an ILLEGAL order.
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LTC (Join to see)
SSgt (Join to see) - I found the same thing. When I went through the Advanced Course (1982) we had a mandatory block on My Lai and the findings of the Peers Report, the investigation. But years later when I asked some young soldiers about it (around 1992) none had even heard of it, and didn't even really believe me at first that American soldiers could do such a thing.
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No surprise that Marines, especially those in the field, would be sharing nude photos of women. But it used to be women that chose to model for such pictures. Putting WMs on display is uncalled for and inexcusable. A blot on all of us.
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Now that is an interesting read.
Regardless of the background, the action that was taken online but this small population reflects badly on all of us. It is never okay to do what they did.
Regardless of the background, the action that was taken online but this small population reflects badly on all of us. It is never okay to do what they did.
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GySgt Bill Smith
I thought it was a good article because it explained that this stuff has always gone on. But we live in a world where everyone has the capability to share information with the world with click of a button. The public always had this spitting image of the military but know with facebook and other social media outlets those walls are coming down. I like to compare it to when I found out there was not Santa and my parents lied to me.
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