Posted on Feb 24, 2017
‘Greatest threat to democracy’: Commander of bin Laden raid slams Trump’s anti-media sentiment
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Interesting. Very. We need the media, but media has failed us. They are no longer reporting just the facts. They are reporting what they want us to hear, know, and think, as Mika Brezinski said recently. Their party alignments and politics has really made a mess of our free press. They all largely supported President Obama and gave him a free pass, and now not so much. CPT Aaron Kletzing ... That said, I personally think our current president needs to say much less daily, and just focus on doing.
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MSgt James Mullis
The mainstream media have openly declared themselves as being in opposition to the Trump Presidency. They have dropped the "Defender of Truth" motto in favor of publishing stories that make themselves "feel good about themselves".
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LCpl Mike Calhoun
SSG Michael Hartsfield - wow man, you actually pulled the Mugabe and Stalin card over something Trump SAID, to campare with atrocities those dictators DID? Come on man, really?
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SSG Michael Hartsfield
LCpl Mike Calhoun - It's all a slippery slope. Also, as president don't you think what you say carries weight?
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COL Charles Williams
SSG Michael Hartsfield - excellent comments!!!! Thanks for the azimuth check and for responding.
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Pretty hard lately to defend the media. Granted an honest, inquisitive and neutral media that informs the public of events is a corner stone of our republic that is essential.
However that's not what we have currently. When the majority of news agencies and papers openly threw their weight behind Sec Clinton this last election cycle they blew it. When you are bombarded nightly by negative reporting that fails to mention the positive achievements that have been made, they blow it. When the reporting fails to highlight pertinent information that supports someone's argument and instead focuses on semantics, grammar and general bullshit, they blow it. When the press denies facts and then are shown to have suppressed the truth, scale or frequency of events, they blow it.
So while I agree "enemy" is probably a little rough a word semantically. They sure haven't done much to put themselves in the neutral zone where they should be operating. If it were me I'd adjust my comment from "enemy" to simply read; Dishonest, unreliable and corrupt bunch of pricks.
This of course is just based on my most humble of opinions that truth in reporting is essential in building and maintaining trust.
However that's not what we have currently. When the majority of news agencies and papers openly threw their weight behind Sec Clinton this last election cycle they blew it. When you are bombarded nightly by negative reporting that fails to mention the positive achievements that have been made, they blow it. When the reporting fails to highlight pertinent information that supports someone's argument and instead focuses on semantics, grammar and general bullshit, they blow it. When the press denies facts and then are shown to have suppressed the truth, scale or frequency of events, they blow it.
So while I agree "enemy" is probably a little rough a word semantically. They sure haven't done much to put themselves in the neutral zone where they should be operating. If it were me I'd adjust my comment from "enemy" to simply read; Dishonest, unreliable and corrupt bunch of pricks.
This of course is just based on my most humble of opinions that truth in reporting is essential in building and maintaining trust.
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SSG (Join to see)
CSM StCyr, If I'm not mistaken the media didn't exactly throw their weight behind Secretary Clinton; there was an amazing amount of stories going on and on about the email / server issue and the latest breathless accusations from Wikileaks. I was frankly disgusted that leaked information that couldn't be verified was pushed forward the way the 'leaks' were. What a bonfire of nonsense!
Could you explain what you mean by "When you are bombarded nightly by negative reporting that fails to mention the positive achievements that have been made, they blow it." As far as I know, the negative information about Trump was accurate - he was a con man who had gone bankrupt multiple times, who cheated his own subcontractors and ordinary workers, who has long been suspected of benefiting from deals with Russian mobsters. Tell me where that isn't accurate if you can.
Thank you, CSM StCyr
Could you explain what you mean by "When you are bombarded nightly by negative reporting that fails to mention the positive achievements that have been made, they blow it." As far as I know, the negative information about Trump was accurate - he was a con man who had gone bankrupt multiple times, who cheated his own subcontractors and ordinary workers, who has long been suspected of benefiting from deals with Russian mobsters. Tell me where that isn't accurate if you can.
Thank you, CSM StCyr
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CSM Richard StCyr
SSG (Join to see) - Pretty clear in my writing, watch the news then spend a few minutes researching the stories, reviewing articles from overseas and comparing percentages and crime reports as published by agencies. It's amazing what is and is not reported and what activities are not presented accurately when placed side by side with actual data from non-political sources. most countries have pretty good web sites that reflect statistical data on crime, terrorism and economics. Belgium has about the best one I've seen, Germany has a pretty good one also.
Also spend a few minutes reviewing contract law for construction and the process of withholdings for work not completed to standards and read a few large scale contracts and the clauses that deal with withholdings, you will be amazed that many of the claims don't hold water when you know what can and can't be done. And yes enforcement of those clauses pretty frequently results in adjudication through the courts, and yes sometimes you don't get paid everything if you don't meet the standard. Do what you're supposed to, the way you're supposed to, when you're supposed to and you get paid what you're supposed to.
Have you ever done any work in and around Chicago or Philadelphia, large number of Eastern European Immigrants involved as owners and workers in construction businesses, pretty hard to build anything that hasn't got one or more subcontractors tied to that ethnic group. So if you build things you probably at least have those folks on payroll at some point, doing something in the process. To some folks "Russians " are anyone from Eastern Europe.
Unfortunately I don't have time to churn out an APA college style paper or produce a USASMA quality position paper / decision briefing defending my points but if you take a minute and do a little looking you'll see I'm pretty close to target, and the press as currently stands is not performing at the level of integrity and neutrality we deserve. Which was the point of the post.
Also spend a few minutes reviewing contract law for construction and the process of withholdings for work not completed to standards and read a few large scale contracts and the clauses that deal with withholdings, you will be amazed that many of the claims don't hold water when you know what can and can't be done. And yes enforcement of those clauses pretty frequently results in adjudication through the courts, and yes sometimes you don't get paid everything if you don't meet the standard. Do what you're supposed to, the way you're supposed to, when you're supposed to and you get paid what you're supposed to.
Have you ever done any work in and around Chicago or Philadelphia, large number of Eastern European Immigrants involved as owners and workers in construction businesses, pretty hard to build anything that hasn't got one or more subcontractors tied to that ethnic group. So if you build things you probably at least have those folks on payroll at some point, doing something in the process. To some folks "Russians " are anyone from Eastern Europe.
Unfortunately I don't have time to churn out an APA college style paper or produce a USASMA quality position paper / decision briefing defending my points but if you take a minute and do a little looking you'll see I'm pretty close to target, and the press as currently stands is not performing at the level of integrity and neutrality we deserve. Which was the point of the post.
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As much as I despise Trump's character and inability to speak eloquently, I still say he is right about taking on the media. Adm McRaven is correct that a free press is crucial, but they need to do a better job policing themselves. It seems to me that when it comes to many significant professions, each have an oath in which the individuals swear to abide by;
- The military has an oath of office in which we swear by to protect and defend the Constitution of the US, regardless of what political party runs the government.
- Doctors have the Hippocratic Oath in which they promise to treat everyone, upholding ethical standards.
- Lawyers have an oath describing their ethical/legal standards.
- Even politicians and civil servants all take an oath
Why doesn't the media? Sure they have a creed (which I bet few can recite), but nothing in which they get up in front of people and swear (with legal implications) to report the news in an unbiased manner, without commentary or opinions of their own.
- The military has an oath of office in which we swear by to protect and defend the Constitution of the US, regardless of what political party runs the government.
- Doctors have the Hippocratic Oath in which they promise to treat everyone, upholding ethical standards.
- Lawyers have an oath describing their ethical/legal standards.
- Even politicians and civil servants all take an oath
Why doesn't the media? Sure they have a creed (which I bet few can recite), but nothing in which they get up in front of people and swear (with legal implications) to report the news in an unbiased manner, without commentary or opinions of their own.
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LTC David Brown
Kellyann Conway said it is remarkable how journalist completely missed what was going on in the election and no heads rolled. How many news organizations revamped? How many news organizations fired managers etc? Well it seems to me NONE! It was more like a failure at propaganda than a failure to publish the truth. So the propaganda continues.
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