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Newt Gingrich is calling for all Muslims to be tested to see if they support Sharia and for any that do support Sharia to be deported. Unfortunately there are an many interpretation of Sharia as there are interpretations of Biblical law. Should we institute such a test for Christians the next time one bombs an abortion clinic? If they believe in old testament law should they be deported as well? The answer of course is a resounding no that would be absurd, my question is why doesn't Gingrich realize how absurd his position is? Doesn't he realize that if the government can strip Muslims of religious liberty, they can strip any group of religious liberty?
Obama rejects 'repugnant' call to test Muslims
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During the debates over the Bill of Rights, all agreed that freedom of religion had to be included except, of course, for Catholicism. Like you, the architects of the Constitution concluded that to exclude any one religion, no matter how well justified, would open the door to excluding others. However, we don't have to approach the problem by attacking a religion. All immigrants are required to swear an oath:
"I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God."
Anyone who cannot subscribe to that oath or who may fail to "support and defend the Constitution and the laws of the United States" is in breach of the contract by which they are permitted to remain here. Sharia Law is abhorrent to constitutional principles and laws. Certifying that Muslims have renounced and abjure allegiance and fidelity to Shariah Law would not necessarily infringe on a person's constitutional right to free practice of a religion even though Shariah Law is a component of Islamic ideology.
"I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God."
Anyone who cannot subscribe to that oath or who may fail to "support and defend the Constitution and the laws of the United States" is in breach of the contract by which they are permitted to remain here. Sharia Law is abhorrent to constitutional principles and laws. Certifying that Muslims have renounced and abjure allegiance and fidelity to Shariah Law would not necessarily infringe on a person's constitutional right to free practice of a religion even though Shariah Law is a component of Islamic ideology.
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I believe citizens are required to take that oath, however I don't believe it's required of people staying here on a green card.
It is possible for someones interpretation of old testament law to also be incompatible with the constitution, for the vast majority of Christians however I don't believe such a situation exists. I expect the same to be true for most Muslims, if you asked them if they supported Sharia law they would probably say that they did. If you asked them if Sharia law as they understood it was incompatible with the constitution, I suspect most would say that it was not.
It is possible for someones interpretation of old testament law to also be incompatible with the constitution, for the vast majority of Christians however I don't believe such a situation exists. I expect the same to be true for most Muslims, if you asked them if they supported Sharia law they would probably say that they did. If you asked them if Sharia law as they understood it was incompatible with the constitution, I suspect most would say that it was not.
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CPT Jack Durish
SSG (Join to see) - I suspect that you are correct as to Muslims not seeing any conflict between Shari'a and Constitutional law, but there is. As to Old Testament, there are passages that reflect practices of a former time that would be unlawful under US code but they are not Judaic law.
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Religion is a PRIVATE matter. It's none of the government's #%^*++ business what my Religion is or is not. Period. That's what Religious Freedom is about.
As long as I don't actively hurt someone else (as in violate their Rights), the government has no business crossing my threshold and "playing referee."
Unfortunately, there is so much ignorance when it comes to Sharia that well intentioned "friends" are trying to "help" because they they know what is best. "Hi, we're from the government and we're here to fix things" is one of the scariest sentences that can be uttered.
Cc: SrA Edward Vong
As long as I don't actively hurt someone else (as in violate their Rights), the government has no business crossing my threshold and "playing referee."
Unfortunately, there is so much ignorance when it comes to Sharia that well intentioned "friends" are trying to "help" because they they know what is best. "Hi, we're from the government and we're here to fix things" is one of the scariest sentences that can be uttered.
Cc: SrA Edward Vong
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SGM Steve Wettstein
Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS Once again, you nailed it Aaron. Also TSgt Frank Shirley could you please stop typing in all caps?
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Thanks for letting us know SSG (Join to see)
A test on Muslims about their loyalty to the Koran would be a waste money.
A test on Muslims about their loyalty to the Koran would be a waste money.
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You can interpret a book any way you want to interpret a book, why do you think there are thousands of Christian denominations instead of just one? You can interpret Sharia as being applicable or not applicable based on the situation for the same reason Christians don't stone people gay people or people that invite them to worship other gods.
For a leader in the Republican party, a party that makes a big deal about claiming to be constitutionally conservative to propose such a thing is surprising.
For a leader in the Republican party, a party that makes a big deal about claiming to be constitutionally conservative to propose such a thing is surprising.
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