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CSM Battalion Command Sergeant Major
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"The new plans would also allow troops to ask to have their promotion review postponed if they haven't completed all the requirements for the next rank, and want to pursue another opportunity, such as an internship or higher education.'

I absolutely disagree with this portion of the proposal. We are supposed to be getting paid to fight an win the nation's wars, not do an internship. Service isn't supposed to be about "us"; is is supposed to be about serving the nation.

I joined the Army...the Army didn't join me.
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SP5 Mark Kuzinski
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Very well put CSM (Join to see) - Thank you sir.
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LTC Yinon Weiss
LTC Yinon Weiss
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The military is a complex organization as you know. An internship at a tech company, for example, may help some cyber service members be better at their job. The military may also be able to retain some its best people who might otherwise leave the service. The "if you don't like it then get out" mentality works to a certain extent, but it doesn't necessarily optimize the talent concentration of the military force.

You are a through and through career Soldier, and the Army needs people like you. However, the Army also needs the best in many other fields (technology, legal, finance, engineering, etc.), and what works for you may not work for every other person. I don't see how giving the services, and commanders in general, more flexibility to make personnel decisions can be a bad thing.
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I agree that there could be some benefit to this program, but we were told that "up or out" was the best way to manage talent. I don't know anybody who believe it, but that is what we were told. I think the issue in many technical MOS/Branches is competing with the civilian sector in terms of compensation. An IT guy working for IBM or Pepsi is going to make a lot more money than one in the Army. That is generally why we lose people....I see it with Intel folks all the time. Giving somebody an internship so that they can actually see how much greener the grass is on the other side is not, in my opinion, going to do much in regards to retaining the best and brightest.

I read an article about a month or so ago where soon-to-be graduates from West Point were talking about what they were doing after graduation. One was doing some kind of internship in Ireland for a year, another was going straight to grad school. There were several others interviewed who were taking a less traditional approach to their first assignment and none seemed concerned. I will paraphrase one when he/she said, "I know this puts me off my timeline, but I have always wanted to do this and hopefully I will be able to catch up to my classmates". None of them seemed excited about being a Platoon Leader (or branch equivalent). It would be interesting to know what an education at West Point costs. I would guess that $200,000 + would not be too far out of the ballpark. Taxpayers paid the bill to get brand new Second Lieutenants to go be Platoon Leaders.
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CSM Battalion Command Sergeant Major
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MSG Tom Earley - Yes, but this isn't one of them. This is an attempt to keep the technical skills that are hard to come by in the military by throwing the service member a "bone" in the form of an internship. It won't work.
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Alan K.
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Better get to planning safe spaces as well......With safe comfy furniture...! Maybe some nice books and a teacart.
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SP5 Mark Kuzinski
SP5 Mark Kuzinski
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Don't give them any ideas Alan!
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Alan K.
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SP5 Mark Kuzinski - LOL....Oh yeah and a shoe rack for those friggin' red high heels.
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LTC Stephen F.
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Thanks for informing us SP5 Mark Kuzinski - only in the government would somebody use language like unveiling a plan which will be used to adjust the promotion rules.
I hope that the DoD is really interested in "giving the military services a greater ability to attract or hold on to quality service members and keep them in jobs where they excel" and not looking at a quota system to keep sufficient people of various demographic groups within the military services.
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SP5 Mark Kuzinski
SP5 Mark Kuzinski
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We can only hope sir and time will tell the true story. Thank you and again give my best to your wife.
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