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Who's more confused: The transgender individual or the rest of us? It seems that these fellows are sometimes as confused as I am. Look, this is a conversation we're going to have whether we like it or not. The President has opened Pandora's Box. I think it might help if we began by understanding the differences. Why don't we begin by learning what transgender persons are and how they differ from others like us, transvestites, transsexuals, homosexuals, etc? To be perfectly honest, I'm getting confused...
Transgender https://www.google.com/#q=transgender
Transsexual https://www.google.com/#q=transsexual+definition
Transvestite https://www.google.com/#q=transvestite+define
Homosexual https://www.google.com/#q=homosexual+definition
There, I hope that helps...
Transgender https://www.google.com/#q=transgender
Transsexual https://www.google.com/#q=transsexual+definition
Transvestite https://www.google.com/#q=transvestite+define
Homosexual https://www.google.com/#q=homosexual+definition
There, I hope that helps...
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Three white, straight cis-males talk about something they know nothing about. If you want to understand us, this video is not the place to start. The President didn't start this in any way. It was happening whether it was him in the White House or someone different.
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Captain Durish,
Let's do it. You make a great point. Conversations do need to happen. An article came out a couple months ago which suggested that even a 15 minute cnversation with a trans person can bring understanding. So, let's open up some dialogue.
As many of you know, I am a transgender woman. I have had some work in advocacy and education so I am versed enough to speak intelligently on the subject.
I have some ground rules:
1. I am not a lawyer, a doctor, or a politician so I can only provide my opinion on questions that fall in those realms but it is an educated opinion. I am an infantry soldier, a mother, a Christian and a wife...who also happens to be trans.
2. Let's show one another mutual respect and use this as an opportunity for understanding. I may correct language but I don't mean it to be offensive. For instance, transgender is an adjective, a describing word. So you can't be transgenderED. It would be like calling me talled or blacked. It's not something that happens to you and has no tense. Also, using the term "transgenders" is like saying gays or blacks. Not the worst thing you can do but it's not preferable.
3. I think Paul McHugh is a hack. We can get into plenty of debate about his work but it will be counter productive.
So that's it. Tag me and ask me anything. If it's personal in nature you can feel free to PM me or find me on social media.
Let's do it. You make a great point. Conversations do need to happen. An article came out a couple months ago which suggested that even a 15 minute cnversation with a trans person can bring understanding. So, let's open up some dialogue.
As many of you know, I am a transgender woman. I have had some work in advocacy and education so I am versed enough to speak intelligently on the subject.
I have some ground rules:
1. I am not a lawyer, a doctor, or a politician so I can only provide my opinion on questions that fall in those realms but it is an educated opinion. I am an infantry soldier, a mother, a Christian and a wife...who also happens to be trans.
2. Let's show one another mutual respect and use this as an opportunity for understanding. I may correct language but I don't mean it to be offensive. For instance, transgender is an adjective, a describing word. So you can't be transgenderED. It would be like calling me talled or blacked. It's not something that happens to you and has no tense. Also, using the term "transgenders" is like saying gays or blacks. Not the worst thing you can do but it's not preferable.
3. I think Paul McHugh is a hack. We can get into plenty of debate about his work but it will be counter productive.
So that's it. Tag me and ask me anything. If it's personal in nature you can feel free to PM me or find me on social media.
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I think my biggest question would be. Did you find it difficult to transition while being in the military? Did your fellow soldiers treat you differently?
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SSG Patricia King
SSG (Join to see) - Transition is difficult no matter where you are. Consider the statistics. Trans people have a disproportionately high rate of unemployment and homelessness. We face higher than normal rates of sexual assault and rape as well as traditional assault. On top of that we are going through a type of puberty all over again. Many will lose family and friends. I don't think transition in the military is more difficult. Prejudice and stigma follow me, but unlike the civilian work force, we have values and ethics as well as policies to protect me from poor treatment
Yep. People treated me differently. But over time most came to know me. They saw that the quality of my work hadn't changed. And for the most part neither did I. My body changed and some other things about me. But I sill love the red sox. I still know how to change an alternator. Yep. I like to dress like most other women after work but with each passing month I also pass more so over time they come to see it as normal.
Yep. People treated me differently. But over time most came to know me. They saw that the quality of my work hadn't changed. And for the most part neither did I. My body changed and some other things about me. But I sill love the red sox. I still know how to change an alternator. Yep. I like to dress like most other women after work but with each passing month I also pass more so over time they come to see it as normal.
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Values and ethics I love that you said that. I pride myself and saying that about the military. Most soldiers I've come to find don't care what sex you are what religion, color etc. as long as you can do the job you're a soldier through and through. Please know that I respect the hell out of you for sticking it out and serving your country. It makes me proud to serve alongside anyone that upholds the army values. Thank you for answering my question:
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I vaguely understand the differences, but my understanding is.... (In a nutshell)
Homosexual: One who is attracted to someone of the same sex
Transvestite: Person who dresses like the opposite sex (typically a man)
This is where I may be wrong.
Transexual: One who has recieved a sex change and appearance as the opposite gender
Transgender: One who identifies with the opposite gender.
Maybe you guys can help me?
CW2 Lindsey Muller
SSG Patricia King
Homosexual: One who is attracted to someone of the same sex
Transvestite: Person who dresses like the opposite sex (typically a man)
This is where I may be wrong.
Transexual: One who has recieved a sex change and appearance as the opposite gender
Transgender: One who identifies with the opposite gender.
Maybe you guys can help me?
CW2 Lindsey Muller
SSG Patricia King
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CPT Jack Durish
Thank you for confirming my point. That's why I provided links to definitions. Did you look?
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SrA Edward Vong
CPT Jack Durish
I wanted to answer my knowledge before looking, I guess I may be confused by Transexual vs Transgender.
Here's what I got...
'Transgender' describes a person, male or female, who dresses, behaves or presents themselves in a way that is different from their gender norm. Transgender includes transvestites/crossdressers, Drag Queens/Kings, androgynes and genderqueers. It does NOT include transsexual people.
'Transsexual' describes a person, male or female, born with a congenital neurological intersex condition (Benjamin's syndrome). Although transsexualism almost always requires some form of medical intervention up to and including genital surgery, it is not defined by, nor restricted to, that treatment.
I wanted to answer my knowledge before looking, I guess I may be confused by Transexual vs Transgender.
Here's what I got...
'Transgender' describes a person, male or female, who dresses, behaves or presents themselves in a way that is different from their gender norm. Transgender includes transvestites/crossdressers, Drag Queens/Kings, androgynes and genderqueers. It does NOT include transsexual people.
'Transsexual' describes a person, male or female, born with a congenital neurological intersex condition (Benjamin's syndrome). Although transsexualism almost always requires some form of medical intervention up to and including genital surgery, it is not defined by, nor restricted to, that treatment.
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Typically, "transgender" covers anyone who doesn't fit the norm that is assumed to apply to their gender assigned at birth. This would cover everyone, including crossdressers, gender queer, transfemme, transmasculine, bi-gender, agender, sometimes even drag queens. "Transsexual" is typically someone who identifies with the other gender from what they were assigned at birth. To be honest, many of the terms covered under the broad umbrella of "transgender" are confusing even to me. I love and accept them, but don't fully understand. I do tell people that I am transgender rather than transsexual, mostly because transgender rolls off the tongue easier and any word with "sex" in it makes a lot of people uncomfortable. I personally identify 100% as female, so I would be considered a transsexual, even if I chose not to go through medical treatments.
We say "open transgender service", because that is the goal eventually. In reality, the first thing that will happen is allowing transsexuals to serve openly. This means that people can transition from one gender to the other and still serve. This is very possible because there are male and female uniforms, standards, berthings, etc. Currently it would be extremely difficult to have accommodations for people who identify as neither gender or both genders (again, things I do not understand but do my best to accept). One day, when we are Star Fleet, and half our service members are from other planets, things will be perfect. Until then we are taking one step at a time.
We say "open transgender service", because that is the goal eventually. In reality, the first thing that will happen is allowing transsexuals to serve openly. This means that people can transition from one gender to the other and still serve. This is very possible because there are male and female uniforms, standards, berthings, etc. Currently it would be extremely difficult to have accommodations for people who identify as neither gender or both genders (again, things I do not understand but do my best to accept). One day, when we are Star Fleet, and half our service members are from other planets, things will be perfect. Until then we are taking one step at a time.
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SrA Edward Vong - "Transgender" usually is considered to include "transsexual". Also, "transsexual" does not mean intersex. I know it can be confusing. BZ to you for actually looking into this and being open to learning!
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