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Don't go making whose lives "illegal"? The argument has been and until our King decided to put his Royal stamp on the issue, one of whether males can use female bathrooms and vice versa. Someone who has had the surgery no longer just IDs w/a gender, at least outside biology-they are now that sex. What I and many others are pissed off about is the loose interpretation some in the LGBT/prog community want where self identification is justification for whatever bathroom they wish to use. That is license, not liberty and unfortunately it becomes a legal copout for any who now choose to use it.

It's not discrimination, it's legal common sense. The laws don't discriminate, they clarify something that wasn't an issue until the last 15-20 years where such surgeries have become fairly common place.

The 14th trumps the 10th? It may clarify but it doesn't give the Feds the power to trample a states sovereignty on a loose claim of discrimination. Equal protection is just that equal. It is not special. Who decides if someone's declaration of gender ID is valid? You?

The media/progs did invent this, the issue is not something anyone was even talking about until they decided to make it the outrage of the week. Conservatives are making a big deal of it now as it has become yet another issue that the Feds and His Majesty feel they can make self serving proclamations about. Yeah like seeing pols showcasing ignorance is something new, it happens constantly and worse they tend to be the ones who do so for self serving reasons.

No you didn't understand again what I wrote. I said gays I knew (who tended to be FEMALES) didn't want any such "right" But of course that is anecdotal and I'm sure you have much evidence than just your opinion.

Nixon as an example of a constitutionalist is pretty funny. Try and find an example that doesn't contradict your stance that Obama's threats don't violate separation of powers. Nixon was another in a line of executives that violated their oaths/duties pretty regularly and he for sure wasn't the last.

SFC Charles Temm - The 14th absolutely give the feds the power to trample all over a states sovereignty if said state uses it's sovereignty to treat people without equal protection under the law, it's the *entire point* of the 14th amendment. It's not a matter of trumping the 10th, it's a matter of the 10th not being remotely applicable because these powers are enumerated by the 14th.

Also I'm completely at a loss how you could possibly think the media invented this, the entire controversy was started by several states passing laws requiring people use restrooms according to the sex they were *born* with. The action that prompted this federal response was states passing laws banning people (including those who have had the full surgery and hormonal treatments to effectively become the other sex as you stated) from using the restroom if it wasn't the sex/gender that they were born with. Nixon was a scumbag who violated the constitution in many ways but the specific example that Cpt Greene is referencing has been upheld multiple times by the Supreme Court so I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. If you want another example that has nothing to do with Nixon read South Dakota v. Dole

actually the 14th's powers continue to be debated and as for "giving the Feds the power to trample all over the states" it most definitely does not. That is a major point of contention as some (yourself inc) seem to think it's another commerce clause w/such elasticity anything Feds wish to do is authorized. In case one forgets or doesn't know, the 14th was in forbidding slavery and equalizing the former slaves as legal cits. That is used for anything the Feds/statists now wish to impose is why there is so much legal debate on just how power and latitude it gives the Feds.

The entire issue was brought on by people and their allies wishing to push the envelope on social change. I have no probs if you are gay or what have you being part and parcel of society but I'm curious why to see why the powers that be have decided to force "acceptance" (not toleration) on the general society. Forcing a cultural issue is not the way to gain acceptance, it breeds resentment. The use of government to force private businesses for instance to serve (the infamous bakery call) was stupid. That gay couple should just went elsewhere. Destroying someone's livelihood in that matter did nothing to increase acceptance.

We agree on Nixon, hurrah. But you using him as supporting your cause did nothing to further it and illustrates a mindset.

Sorry but I'm not a supporter of government force and just b/c SCOTUS has upheld similar decisions in the past doesn't mean it's actually constitutional. That list is quite long and only an indicator of how SCOTUS justices themselves ignore the text of the Constitution.

While I agree that the media regularly distracts from very real and critical issues as you listed (not accidental), I can see the other side as well when you mention bathrooms. As the father of young children, I am always on alert to begin with. I don't think anyone is worried about someone with Gender dysphoria or gender identity disorder (GID) using the facilities. Instead, my concerns are for the predators who will use this as an opportunity.