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Try to tread lightly on this matter, but would most doctors consider gender re-assignment surgery as a cosmetic thing? Given there are mental illnesses out there that go around the idea of switching genders. I think it's honestly based on the situation at hand.
Again, I'm not wanting to step on any toes or give anyone a sour taste in their mouth.
Again, I'm not wanting to step on any toes or give anyone a sour taste in their mouth.
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Sgt (Join to see)
I believe you are correct. Also, those that get the surgery tend to only be satisfied with it for a short time (10 years or less if i am not mistaken) and have a much higher suicide rate
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Sgt (Join to see) - I've heard of the same thing too. I don't think that Vets would be able to get that option, just like if someone wanted to get rid of excess skin; even that is only based on the benefit of the person's health (if someone had 50 pounds of skin and it hindered them from daily life or hygiene, I believe that would be a legitimate reason for a lapband procedure). I understand that they want to identify themselves as the gender but they would probably have to go with another doctor and pay out of pocket for the services.
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At first, I wanted to say "No, it's an elective surgery and non-service connected" but right before I hit "Respond" I thought about the laser eye surgery the military covers. That is also an elective surgery and non-service connected. Now, I would say that if a service member is looking to have the VA pay for their surgeries then to that I say "No" because the VA is already backlogged enough with other service-connected claims. Either way, it is defiantly in the grey area of decision making.
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SGT Ben Keen
Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin - Exactly. I think if the military is going to pay for something, they need to look at it in terms of combat readiness. Yet the argument can be made that someone who is transgender may not be FMC because whatever could result from them not having surgery. As we both have pointed out, the coin can be flipped 100 times and still other questions would come up.
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Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin
What argument? Go ahead and flip the coin and tell me how by not giving them the surgery, their readiness will be affected.
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SGT Ben Keen
Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin - What about mental readiness for combat? We tell our Soldiers to get their house in order prior to deploying. I would think that for someone having to deal with personal identity, there could be a burden placed on their mental readiness.
Again, I am not saying the Army should or should not pay for this type of thing. Personally, the military has bigger issues to deal with but when you stop and look at it, the answer is not so easily found.
Again, I am not saying the Army should or should not pay for this type of thing. Personally, the military has bigger issues to deal with but when you stop and look at it, the answer is not so easily found.
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Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin
I realize you're playing devil's advocate here and all but I'm sorry, that is a stretch to invoke "mental readiness" as a reason for any elective medical procedure to ensure combat readiness. Especially if you cannot guarantee the procedure would actually resolve any issues. Look at Jenner for example... There are reports coming out that he's considering reversing his operation because things are worse for him now.
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It's a cosmetic surgery. Although I have seen some that were able to get the military to pay for their breast implants. Not sure how, I think they were able to prove that their size was causing depression and affecting their work. Not sure what the loophole was.
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Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin
Those who are treated for breast cancer will require implants after a mastectomy. My wife, a survivor, is a recipient of those implants. Believe me, we would rather have not needed them...
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SrA Edward Vong
Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin
My mother went through the same. I understand that. My statement was based on what is viewed, not exactly what I think.
My mother went through the same. I understand that. My statement was based on what is viewed, not exactly what I think.
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Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin
I understand, I just don't want it implied that anyone can go in an request breast implants. There has to be a medical need. The one exception is for training, where the military will accept a few cases which might not be medically required, to practice for those that are. Same goes for things like liposuction and other elective surgeries which might have conditions for a medical need.
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