Posted on Oct 27, 2015
Video shows school officer tossing student in classroom
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Personally, I would not have done that but what I would have done was to have someone hold the door open and pull the chair with the student in it into the hall. If the student didn't want to leave the chair and the room, then take the chair with the student out of the room.
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SPC (Join to see)
Great solution SSG, not to try and steal your idea, I actually thought that when I saw it in the news, "why not drag the whole desk out"? Definitely the best way to avoid physical contact.
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SPC Luis Mendez
Well, with the way things are now a days. Whoever would be holding the door open will be call complicit to whatever discriminatory allegations/claims could be brought against Police.
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SGT Rick Ash
The young lady struck the officer. If you or I did that we would be charged with assault. She should be charged. There is no telling what she called the officer, even as he approached her. She should be in a juvenile correctional facility. I hope the other students took notice, bad behavior does not go unnoticed. She has zero grounds for any suit against the officer, he did what he is there for....
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CSM Michael J. Uhlig We watched the video this morning. First the news casters are already putting the spin on it. This is a punk ass kid who was being disruptive. The teacher asked the student to leave the class and she did not. The teacher called for assistance. The student still didn't move. SO the student was moved. These are not items being disputed. The issue I have with this is that it only shows the climax of the situation. It does not show the events leading up to the unceremonious dumping of the desk followed by the dragging of the student.
I have several problems with this. First, if the student was behaving in class, the incident would not have occurred. Second, if the student had left the class when the teacher told them to leave, the incident would not have occurred. Third, had the student (as shown on the video) gotten up when the deputy came into the classroom, the incident would not have occurred. Fourth, had the student been sitting quietly, behaving, participating in a valid discussion, then been dumped, that would be shown in the video. We are only being shown ten to fifteen seconds of an incident. If this happened to my daughter, I would be outraged. Outraged at her behavior.
I have several problems with this. First, if the student was behaving in class, the incident would not have occurred. Second, if the student had left the class when the teacher told them to leave, the incident would not have occurred. Third, had the student (as shown on the video) gotten up when the deputy came into the classroom, the incident would not have occurred. Fourth, had the student been sitting quietly, behaving, participating in a valid discussion, then been dumped, that would be shown in the video. We are only being shown ten to fifteen seconds of an incident. If this happened to my daughter, I would be outraged. Outraged at her behavior.
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Sgt Jay Jones
For everyone who says she got what she deserved. What if that was your child? Would you still feel the same way? Remember this is a child. She is not an Adult. The adult in this case was suppose to be trained on how to handle situations like this. Which should not include tossing a girl around like a rag doll.
WE created this monster! When we tell parents they cannot discipline their children without calling Child Protective Services. This is what you get. A generation of children who feel entitled to act any way they desire without consequences.
I'd rather spank my grandchildren now than have the police throw them around like a stuffed animal or possible shoot them.
WE created this monster! When we tell parents they cannot discipline their children without calling Child Protective Services. This is what you get. A generation of children who feel entitled to act any way they desire without consequences.
I'd rather spank my grandchildren now than have the police throw them around like a stuffed animal or possible shoot them.
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Based on the interviews with the other kids in the class, what happened before the video started was her cellphone was ringing. She turned it off and because she was not supposed to have it in the classroom, the teacher asked her to leave. I don't know this to be conclusive however, if it was your child who now has a broken arm and cracked ribs, you would have a different perspective of the incident. No, 16 yr old 100 lb girl or boy deserves to be choked and flung across the room by a 250 or more lb man.
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Sgt Jay Jones
CPT (Join to see) - especially when there is no aggression on the teenagers part. Just stubbornness.
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CSM Michael J. Uhlig Not sure I agree with the conclusion of an 'egregious use of force'. We only have the actual take down on the clip. I am sure there is more to this story and we can't make ever event of restraining a person a national crime.
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CPO Andy Carrillo, MS
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SPC George Rudenko
Without sharing an opinion, the officers use of force has to be compared to "Graham v Conner" and to his departments use of force rules.
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COL Ward Marshall
Agreed, we only have a small part of the incident, the part that helps a few make their point but not enough for us to make an informed decision. Funny how the media feeds on drama and inflammatory half truths.
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PO1 Dean Chapman - You can see in the video when he grabbed her around the throat is when her arm swung at him. At any rate, slamming her to the ground and throwing her across the room was excessive if it caused a broken arm and cracked ribs.
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