Management
Management
Posted on Jul 18, 2014
How Do You Handle The," We Are Looking For Individuals With Management Experience Question?" During An Interview.
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Okay, you are a proven field NCO/Officer. Your resume clearly states your leadership experience and you effectively used the STAR method explaining your tangible management skill-sets. Of course, civilians with no military experience only assume you are just yelling at your subordinates and making stuff up to get the job. How do you overcome this hurdle during the interview?
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Sgt Miranda such way is to extract the key words for management used on the job posting instead of using the military jargon from our military job analysis. Put your management words and experiences in their corporate language. The job posting and descriptions are great keyword sources.
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SGT Aaron Miranda
The reason I bring this up is that is a hurdle many veterans are facing in the corporate environment. Not their ability to show their tangible skill sets, but convincing their tangible skill sets worth in the corporate environment with the employers potential natural bias.
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LTC Paul Labrador
If it becomes an issue during the hiring process, than I would argue that the SM did NOT adequately translate his skill set into a civilian frame of reference.
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CW3 Dylan E. Raymond, PHR
I agree with you Paul the employer is making a hard time trying to connect your responses to their needs. That is something that could be improved on very easily with practice.
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list out day to day management tasks and responsibilities, written in civilian-speak. Never forget that they don't speak our language. It's best if you have it written out this way on your resume and what you say verbally doesn't contradict, of course.
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I politely disagree that all employers I know there are some that you are going to run into that has biases. But they are tasked with trying to find the best candidate for the role regardless of whether they served in the military or not. I have roles where there is only one position however 1K people apply for it how do you suggest you start sourcing for the position? You have to start somewhere and there is going to be a cutoff and shortlist that you may not make it to. It is a numbers game.
If you go to an interview thinking that the employer has bias your gun is half cocked. You have to go in there and give it our best and hope you convinced the interviewer that you at least make the short list.
So how do you increase the probability of a better chance network, network, network.........
If you go to an interview thinking that the employer has bias your gun is half cocked. You have to go in there and give it our best and hope you convinced the interviewer that you at least make the short list.
So how do you increase the probability of a better chance network, network, network.........
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SGT Aaron Miranda
I know for a fact that there are many awesome employers that understand military skills-sets. But different regions have different realities. You do bring up a good point regarding the best qualified. How would you as an applicant straight out of the military show that you have the KSA's to be a manager? I know of plenty O-5's and E-9's that have been told that they are looking for individuals with management experience. It is not just the employers, but also the veteran. Here is a recent study regarding choke points and employers view: http://www.cnas.org/files/documents/publications/CNAS_EmployingAmericasVeterans_HarrellBerglass.pdf . Let's say you are an E-8 in a 92g position. Do you think they should have an issue finding a position as a dining facilities manager? Here is the story of a high speed E-8 92G with those hurdles. http://www.azcentral.com/thingstodo/dining/articles/20130606iraq-veteran-grilled-cheese-truck-goodyear.html .
Again, my goal is not to say that I am right or wrong. My goal is to get different opinions on how to handle those hurdles. (For our brothers looking for employment.) I still remember my first job interview after the military. They asked me directly if I had PTSD. I knew that question was illegal and was personally protected by ADA. Things like this happen. Also, you are 100% right about networking. Every position I have every received was from networking. Many people do not realize that what is posted online is only 20% of all the positions out there. The other 80% is the "hidden job market". A good book that I use in my employment workshops for networking is Networking for Veterans: "http://www.amazon.com/Networking-For-Veterans-Successful-Transition/dp/ [login to see] "
Again, my goal is not to say that I am right or wrong. My goal is to get different opinions on how to handle those hurdles. (For our brothers looking for employment.) I still remember my first job interview after the military. They asked me directly if I had PTSD. I knew that question was illegal and was personally protected by ADA. Things like this happen. Also, you are 100% right about networking. Every position I have every received was from networking. Many people do not realize that what is posted online is only 20% of all the positions out there. The other 80% is the "hidden job market". A good book that I use in my employment workshops for networking is Networking for Veterans: "http://www.amazon.com/Networking-For-Veterans-Successful-Transition/dp/ [login to see] "
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CW3 Dylan E. Raymond, PHR
Also what I do when I am talking to a candidate that say they are looking form a management role I ask to explain what do the mean. Some of the roles that I hire for may be an individual contributor dotted line to the organization and you do not have any direct report but your role is very important to the overall mission. So I try to deal with that upfront before they get into the process.
Secondly I am like you there are many ways to skin a cat so it is good to hear other perspectives and ultimately you can choose how you want to skin the cat.
good post
Secondly I am like you there are many ways to skin a cat so it is good to hear other perspectives and ultimately you can choose how you want to skin the cat.
good post
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