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Posted on Oct 8, 2014
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SSG Jacob Wiley
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After 13 years of war the brave souls who make up our military are beyond pushed to the limit. Heroes are stressed and tired. Too many are constantly adding to the already high suicide rates, divorces are sky high and families are falling apart. The burden and stress the military is expected to carry with a smile on their face is out of control. Most recently add in threats on pay cuts, "pink slips", a return to Iraq and now pile on sending folks to Africa; an area plagued with disease? Welcome to the breaking point.

General Douglas MacArthur said in his farewell speech at West Point in 1962, "...your mission remains fixed, determined, inviolable. It is to win our wars. Everything else in your professional career is but corollary to this vital dedication. All other public purpose, all other public projects, all other public needs, great or small, will find others for their accomplishments; but you are the ones who are trained to fight."

This Ebola crisis is not the military's to encounter. This is not what the military is trained for, prepared for, or meant for. Simply because the military is a group of people who can't say "no" (unless they choose to be a conscientious objector) does not make it right to send them. There are plenty others who could tend to this situation. If this truly is a global concern, why was nothing done when the outbreak began this past March? If this is truly a global concern, where is the international community in this endeavor? Where are their boots on the ground? Nothing heard.

Instead, our military will be further stressed, further exhausted, and abused. They will be placed in an environment with an enemy that is impossible to fight, but told it is not theirs to question why.

We should all pray that God looks after these men and women, and protects them from this disease, because the government that sent them there certainly won't.
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SGT Senior Line Medic
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SSG Jason Wiley, don't get me wrong I well aware as you are that we are operating outside of the textbook definition of an Army, and yes the Ebola threat is a reality. I am not denying that. I am stating that in my 8 yrs in I have and I'm sure you have been called on to do things out of our scopes.( work on generators, trucks ect). Soldiers are gumbys, we do what we have to to accomplish what NEEDS to be done. In my opinion I would rather be working actively to resolve the issue then passively addressing the issues as they come to head(screening measures, tests). The best defense is an effective offense. I would in a drop of a hat go on this mission given the opportunity. Stopping the source (Africa) will reduce the risk to my family, thereby completing my mission. The agency's that you mentioned are great and that is there mission but I see nothing wrong with the US army playing a supporting role of it can add to the potential success. Again just my stand point.
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SSG Jacob Wiley
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I respect your opinion and though I disagree, applaud your eagerness to help.

Putting it in your words: "The best defense is an effective offense" - absolutely correct. Don't put a basketball team's offense in a football game. Football is played full contact, with helmets, pads and so on. Basketball is a tank-top and shorts. The two don't jive and someone will get hurt.

From my standpoint, same with disease control and a combat force.
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MAJ(P) Operations Research/Systems Analysis
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I have to agree with you. This probably isn't a military fight. Granted, engineers and medical folks are headed there to provide much needed infrastructure to support basic services and medical support. But, why the military? Why not civilian contractors.

This is potentially putting Soldiers lives in jeapordy in order to "combat" a medical illness. Is Ebola considered an "enemy" against the Constitution?
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SSG Jacob Wiley
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MAJ(P) (Join to see) - I wish this had two thumbs up buttons for your last sentence.
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COL Jean (John) F. B.
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I don't think there is any question that it increases the risk of more cases in the United States. Exposing thousands of service members, even if adequately protected, is a risk.

I agree with some of the earlier discussions that this is not an appropriate mission for the military. It is better suited for the Public Health Service and non-governmental organizations.
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SGM Senior Adviser, National Communications
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COL Burleson--I am a huge fan of universal--mandatory public service. I personally don't think anyone should be considered a full fledged citizen--with the right to vote--until you've served the country in some way, including noncombatant roles--for at least two years as used to be the norm.  Not a fan of the draft but in some ways it did much for the country although the cost-benefit ratio is likely not good. Not a fan of pardoning draft dodgers either because some other poor fellow took his place.  Not a fan of awarding citizenship because momma touched a toe on American soil either.
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COL Jean (John) F. B.
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Great minds think alike... :-) :-)
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SGT Jay Ehrenfeld
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that idea of this current administration want this country as a third world. check the border and the statics someone need to prove me wrong on this.
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SGT Jay Ehrenfeld
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Sgt(p) you need to wake up how much people is on Food stamps esp in the military without any protraction from people coming in it will hurt United States and it their military as we speak the DOD is cutting more money from the military to help with the third world status because they refuse to stop the illegal flow of these people will hurt us in the long run and the short run
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CPT Multifunctional Logistician
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Of course the more people who come into close contact with the infected will increase the chances of the virus spreading. But what is more dangerous is people who do not realize that they are exposed in the first place. I would expect the military to take every precaution if we will be placing people in the "hot zone" to combat this thing. And it is much easier to quarantine and monitor Soldiers for symptoms before they are released back into the general population.
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SGM Senior Adviser, National Communications
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CPT Johnson, absolutely correct.
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SPC Training Room Nco
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I agree with most everything you say PO1. Containing disease in its original habitat is the most efficient way to eliminate it. I also agree that the organization the military provides would be helpful in quarantine situations. However, I have been reading several pages on this subject. I understand that there are some differences in the mission between Army and Navy, but militarys as a whole, are created for war. I believe our job is to fight for the freedoms that our families enjoy. I believe our job is to keep the blood shed off of our soil, but mostly, I believe our job is to fight the wars that our civilian counterparts wont. Civilians outnumber us 10/1, easily. They have organizations that are created specifically for disease outbreaks, and emergency services for that matter. It should not have to fall on the soldiers, the airmen, the sailers, or the marines to clean up what they dont want to deal with. At least that is my personal opinion. Of course I will do as I'm directed, but just because we're capable of completing the mission does not mean that we should be given it when there are more qualified bodies out there.
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MSG Brad Sand
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Sir, I do understand what people are trying to say but senior medical officials in the region like Dr. Umar Khan, Sierra Leone's leading virologist, and Dr. Bernice Dahn, Liberia's chief medical officer and deputy health minister, have run into issues with Ebola on a personal bases. Dr. Umar Khan is dead and Dr. Bernice Dahn has had to quarantine herself and much of her staff when her assistant died from the virus! If a nation's leading virologist and assistant chief medical officer are dropping from this plague, what are we doing putting anyone more into the Hot Zone? I hope I am wrong and no one even comes close to being sick, but the people who 'know' how to protect themselves are dropping like flies, and how much time have our troops been training to protect themselves? Oh, that's right, we need them there now.
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