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Posted on Aug 21, 2014
SMSgt Al Schilling
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I went to a few military only job fairs in 2008 when the economy tanked. Not having an active security clearance was a major hindrance. With the abundance of active members getting out with clearances, most companies had a plethora of choices. Needless to say, for me trying to get back into the defense industry, which most of the employers were defense related, was not good for me.

Oddly enough, the day I got a job, 6 months later, I received 2 job offers from defense related companies that I found through usajobs dot com. In both interviews I was humble and answered everything I could while admitting when I didn't know the answer, but let them know I knew how to research when needed.

As a developer without a sheep skin who competed for a position against people with masters degrees, I am happy to say I work for a company that was just listed in the S&P 500 last year.
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Edited 10 y ago

Thank you all for the Great Responses!!! I am hearing a constant theme on the employers that come to these events and what type of people they are looking for. I couldn't agree more that I have personally witnessed some of the employers with tunnel vision as far as who they are looking for and who they are not.
A couple key problems I have seen from employers are these:
1. They aren't' recruiters! They are actually employees of the company and were picked, or volunteered, to be at the event. They may have HR background, however, that is a lot different then having Recruiting background.
2. They sit behind the table at their booth and wait for potential employees to come to them. Personally, if you sit there like a bump on a log I wouldn't walk up and engage them either...boring!!!!
3. Freebies...the more freebies they have the more they are there for "Public Awareness" instead of recruiting. Public awareness is great but how many people actually call them because they received a foam basketball or some other novelty item. Those items usually end up as pet toys :)
4. They disappear! I can't tell you how many empty tables I see through out career fairs or how many empty tables I see near the end of a career fair. Employers that want to be there and that are actively recruiting will stay for the whole event if possible.
5. Finally, Background Clearances. At Farmers we have to do a background check on every prospective agent, regardless if they have a current one from another company or even the Government. More then likely, most other civilian companies will have to do their own also as we don't have access to Government Clearances. This is one of those "It is what it is" things.

For me, I personally stand in front of my table/booth so, if you are within reach be prepared for me to engage and talk to you. The material on my table is geared towards hiring people. I have awareness items too, however, these are normally brochures and visuals displays. I may break down and buy candy also :)

Once again I understand your frustrations with some of the employers and all I can say is there are some there that truly want to meet you and possibly set up a follow up interview...like me!

Good luck to you all and if you are ever thinking about a possible career as a Farmers Agency Owner hit me back. I don't sugar coat the job and back up my words by setting my candidates up with current agents so they can talk to them about the position and also validate what I have told them.

Al
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Edited 10 y ago
Please see Al Schilling's Response, thank you :)
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