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Whether it be the Civil War dead at Antietam, a shell-shocked soldier in European trenches or Marines raising the flag atop Iwo Jima, the iconic images of every major American conflict have revealed both the horrors of combat and valor on the battlefield. For better or worse, war photography has always wielded an undeniable influence in the court of public opinion.
That power grew exponentially during Vietnam, when the proliferation of television allowed such images to reach into homes on nightly newscasts nationwide. Photos of the My Lai massacre and that of a young Vietnamese girl running naked through the street as napalm melted away her skin began to sway public opinion against the war.
I came home to people spitting on men I served with and civilians calling us baby killers. Until recently, it seemed civilians thought Afghanistan veterans fought the good war, and we fought the bad one, because everyone was on board after 9/11. When talking to my friend Chris, a Marine Corps veteran of Afghanistan, he agreed and attributed the disconnect to growing up hearing family members tell him, “We lost Vietnam.”
That changed last summer when the image of a Chinook helicopter hovering above the U.S. Embassy in Kabul made its rounds on social media. Chris said, “I saw that and thought to myself, ‘Afghanistan is my Vietnam now.’ It made me feel far more connected to Vietnam vets than I had ever felt before.”
Frankly, I felt dismayed when I saw what unfolded in Afghanistan. I couldn’t believe it was happening to our troops again,50 years later.
Something that ties Vietnam and Afghanistan veterans together is all the negative and conflicting feelings one can have after their country pulls out from a war.
While each generation has its own unique traits, the military experience—especially that of a war zone—is a unifying thread. Veterans share a distinctive connection, something DAV (Disabled American Veterans) has seen passed down from its members, beginning with those who fought during World War I.
When service members are deployed to battle zones, they are sent there to do their job. And many of them just hope their family and the American public appreciate it. In fact, some of the most heartwarming thanks I have ever received for my service came from the post-9/11 generation.
For myself, Chris and many other veterans I have the pleasure of knowing, one strong connection we all share is that we don’t look back at our time in uniform with regret. I know I was there for a reason and if I had not gone into the military, my life would be so unbelievably different. It changed it for the far better.
What continues for many veterans is our internal battle, but that’s a war we can all win. What helps me is focusing on my mental health and that of my fellow veterans, however I can, and on the good that came for many people of Afghanistan.
As a national service officer with DAV, I saw many of my fellow Vietnam veterans struggle to cope with the emotional wounds of war for four decades. Like Chris, they wrestled with the meaning of the sacrifices they and others made on the battlefield.
I know all too well the range of emotions that veterans of Afghanistan experienced when we pulled out of the country. My biggest concern, though, is that their emotions and attitudes toward how things ended over there could negatively affect their mental health. More than anything, I want all veterans to know that their service and sacrifice matters, and no picture can ever change that.
DAV: Fulfilling out promises to the men and women who served
That power grew exponentially during Vietnam, when the proliferation of television allowed such images to reach into homes on nightly newscasts nationwide. Photos of the My Lai massacre and that of a young Vietnamese girl running naked through the street as napalm melted away her skin began to sway public opinion against the war.
I came home to people spitting on men I served with and civilians calling us baby killers. Until recently, it seemed civilians thought Afghanistan veterans fought the good war, and we fought the bad one, because everyone was on board after 9/11. When talking to my friend Chris, a Marine Corps veteran of Afghanistan, he agreed and attributed the disconnect to growing up hearing family members tell him, “We lost Vietnam.”
That changed last summer when the image of a Chinook helicopter hovering above the U.S. Embassy in Kabul made its rounds on social media. Chris said, “I saw that and thought to myself, ‘Afghanistan is my Vietnam now.’ It made me feel far more connected to Vietnam vets than I had ever felt before.”
Frankly, I felt dismayed when I saw what unfolded in Afghanistan. I couldn’t believe it was happening to our troops again,50 years later.
Something that ties Vietnam and Afghanistan veterans together is all the negative and conflicting feelings one can have after their country pulls out from a war.
While each generation has its own unique traits, the military experience—especially that of a war zone—is a unifying thread. Veterans share a distinctive connection, something DAV (Disabled American Veterans) has seen passed down from its members, beginning with those who fought during World War I.
When service members are deployed to battle zones, they are sent there to do their job. And many of them just hope their family and the American public appreciate it. In fact, some of the most heartwarming thanks I have ever received for my service came from the post-9/11 generation.
For myself, Chris and many other veterans I have the pleasure of knowing, one strong connection we all share is that we don’t look back at our time in uniform with regret. I know I was there for a reason and if I had not gone into the military, my life would be so unbelievably different. It changed it for the far better.
What continues for many veterans is our internal battle, but that’s a war we can all win. What helps me is focusing on my mental health and that of my fellow veterans, however I can, and on the good that came for many people of Afghanistan.
As a national service officer with DAV, I saw many of my fellow Vietnam veterans struggle to cope with the emotional wounds of war for four decades. Like Chris, they wrestled with the meaning of the sacrifices they and others made on the battlefield.
I know all too well the range of emotions that veterans of Afghanistan experienced when we pulled out of the country. My biggest concern, though, is that their emotions and attitudes toward how things ended over there could negatively affect their mental health. More than anything, I want all veterans to know that their service and sacrifice matters, and no picture can ever change that.
DAV: Fulfilling out promises to the men and women who served
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I still vividly remember a nine-year-old Vietnamese girl running down the road naked in horror and pain. It turned out her back was burned from napalm. That picture was released in June of 1972 and I was drafted in September of 1972
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A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney
That Photo Still Remains With Me,
As Do So Many Others.
But If I Understand Correctly,
She's Now An Adult US Citizen,
And I THINK, She's Living In California.
As Do So Many Others.
But If I Understand Correctly,
She's Now An Adult US Citizen,
And I THINK, She's Living In California.
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SSG (Join to see)
You should read her memoir, The Girl in the Photograph. She escaped communist control after living in Cuba for a long time. She claimed asylum in Canada and has a family there now. Incredible story and horrific experience.
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Without those pictures we would all be so ignorant of our own service’s impact on the world.
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SSG Ralph Watkins
After the First Battle of Fallujah ended & we started allowing the media back into the city we had reporters from all over the world there. They focused on a damaged mosque & we said we saw what happened there. They all wanted to hear what actually happened. None of the reporters were Americans. From the Arab media to the Chinese, they all were there to collect firsthand accounts & evidence. Finally some American reporters showed up. The foreign press moved away from them. Two US reporters stood a few feet from us formulating the story they were going to sell. They talked about ratings, bonuses, & maybe even a Pulitzer prize for coming up with a shocking story. That damaged mosque was due to hatred the US Marines had against Muslims. We tried to tell them that insurgents were using that as an OP & even firing RPGs down on Marine units. Under the Geneva Convention, that made it a fair military target. They didn't want to hear it. It was all about the story they were going to sell & they only wanted data to support their story. We had to walk away. We chatted some more with the foreign press. They were the real professionals. The American reporters were opportunistic, anti-American tools. I read an Al-Arabia report they did on our unit. It was actually very positive & damned the insurgents. We did have some good American reporters but it seemed like half of them were not professionals at all.
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I don't regret my service and I don't regret that I served in a peace time Army. Every single one of my NCOs sported a CIB and none ever expressed a longing to return to the jungles of Vietnam. Quite the contrary, my first platoon sergeant always said a bad day in garrison is better than any day in the bush.
The cold war ended without a shot being fired. Ah, to be in Berlin as the wall fell!
Desert Storm was a sucess because we had the support of the world, kicked ass, restored the world order and left.
Afghanistan was a failure because, after kicking their ass, we refused to make peace with the Taliban and then set up and supported a corrupt puppet government that was clearly too weak to stand on its own. The civilian population was bombed and shot into the Taliban's arms. Vietnam repeated, from beginning to end.
Operation "Iraqi Freedom" (talk about military intelligence) was a flat-out war of aggression undertaken after Sadaam Hussein capitulated to the inspection demands. Even our allies stepped aside.
The cold war ended without a shot being fired. Ah, to be in Berlin as the wall fell!
Desert Storm was a sucess because we had the support of the world, kicked ass, restored the world order and left.
Afghanistan was a failure because, after kicking their ass, we refused to make peace with the Taliban and then set up and supported a corrupt puppet government that was clearly too weak to stand on its own. The civilian population was bombed and shot into the Taliban's arms. Vietnam repeated, from beginning to end.
Operation "Iraqi Freedom" (talk about military intelligence) was a flat-out war of aggression undertaken after Sadaam Hussein capitulated to the inspection demands. Even our allies stepped aside.
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TSgt (Join to see)
Bottom line and there is no denying it. We are in much worse shape now under Biden and his storm troopers.
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Fable: DON'T ARGUE WITH DONKEYS or Democrats
The donkey said to the tiger:
- "The grass is blue".
The tiger replied:
- "No, the grass is green."
The discussion heated up, and the two decided to submit him to arbitration, and for this they went before the lion, the King of the Jungle.
Already before reaching the forest clearing, where the lion was sitting on his throne, the donkey began to shout:
- "His Highness, is it true that the grass is blue?".
The lion replied:
- "True, the grass is blue."
The donkey hurried and continued:
- "The tiger disagrees with me and contradicts and annoys me, please punish him."
The king then declared:
- "The tiger will be punished with 5 years of silence."
The donkey jumped cheerfully and went on his way, content and repeating:
- "The Grass Is Blue"...
The tiger accepted his punishment, but before he asked the lion:
- "Your Majesty, why have you punished me?, after all, the grass is green."
The lion replied:
- "In fact, the grass is green."
The tiger asked:
- "So why are you punishing me?".
The lion replied:
- "That has nothing to do with the question of whether the grass is blue or green.
The punishment is because it is not possible for a brave and intelligent creature like you to waste time arguing with a donkey, and on top of that come and bother me with that question."
The worst waste of time is arguing with the fool and fanatic who does not care about truth or reality, but only the victory of his beliefs and illusions. Never waste time on arguments that don't make sense...
There are people who, no matter how much evidence and evidence we present to them, are not in the capacity to understand, and others are blinded by ego, hatred and resentment, and all they want is to be right even if they are not.
When ignorance screams, intelligence is silent. Your peace and quiet are worth more. ❤️
The donkey said to the tiger:
- "The grass is blue".
The tiger replied:
- "No, the grass is green."
The discussion heated up, and the two decided to submit him to arbitration, and for this they went before the lion, the King of the Jungle.
Already before reaching the forest clearing, where the lion was sitting on his throne, the donkey began to shout:
- "His Highness, is it true that the grass is blue?".
The lion replied:
- "True, the grass is blue."
The donkey hurried and continued:
- "The tiger disagrees with me and contradicts and annoys me, please punish him."
The king then declared:
- "The tiger will be punished with 5 years of silence."
The donkey jumped cheerfully and went on his way, content and repeating:
- "The Grass Is Blue"...
The tiger accepted his punishment, but before he asked the lion:
- "Your Majesty, why have you punished me?, after all, the grass is green."
The lion replied:
- "In fact, the grass is green."
The tiger asked:
- "So why are you punishing me?".
The lion replied:
- "That has nothing to do with the question of whether the grass is blue or green.
The punishment is because it is not possible for a brave and intelligent creature like you to waste time arguing with a donkey, and on top of that come and bother me with that question."
The worst waste of time is arguing with the fool and fanatic who does not care about truth or reality, but only the victory of his beliefs and illusions. Never waste time on arguments that don't make sense...
There are people who, no matter how much evidence and evidence we present to them, are not in the capacity to understand, and others are blinded by ego, hatred and resentment, and all they want is to be right even if they are not.
When ignorance screams, intelligence is silent. Your peace and quiet are worth more. ❤️
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SPC John Tacetta
TSgt (Join to see) - Haha! Well played, sir. So, I accept my punishment and now leave you in silence.
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Thank you for your service and willingness to respectfully agree to disagree. You are an Icon
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