Why is there such a long wait for reserve component officer and warrant federal recognition/promotion?

Excellent letter that I feel addresses this concern. I would say if they will not entertain a reach back on back dating orders then the only other recourse will be to have the effective date of their plan (to back date the DOR to the state order) be state orders effective AFTER the passage of the bill-meaning no one currently in the process will benefit from the back date policy, only those who have state orders AFTER the passage of the bill thus not effecting the current promotion time line. This still does not solve the issue of righting the wrong that so many of us faced by feeling the full effect of the outdated FEDREC system but it does insure that we will not be further penalized by having officers DOR precede our DOR because it was backdated which is my main concern of this bill. I also agree that they should look at DOR corrections but like, you pointed out-no one seems to have that ability, or, ensure that any DOR reflecting a state order vs a FEDREC order take place well enough in the future that it does not place us in an unfair disadvantage of having to complete with people that we were previously years a head of prior to the passage of the law.

I have a little bit of experience with the ABCMR, and it is no better than the FEDREC process. I had a complicated issue that I submitted to ABCMR approaching 18 Months ago. Long story short, My Oath of office shows as OCT 2015 instead of my actual date of AUG 2013. So I sent up all of my documentation, letters of explanation, and references to them with a request for correction of military records. Since then I have asked and had my congressman ask on my behalf about the status and why such a long delay; and the response has been the same. Paraphrasing here but essentially, "We are very busy and it is not uncommon for it to take twelve months or even longer for us to even look at it....Sorry."

So, it would be extremely frustrating to move from one process which takes a ridiculous amount of time just to move to another process, which IMO has been worse. But, if that is the only option, then it is better than letting it ride uncorrected.

That does sound frustrating and yes, I agree, exchanging one flawed process for another doesn't seem like much of a gain. I mean, focus on fixing existing processes before introducing another one with an unlimited number of unknown problems and second and third order effects that have not been discussed.

2LT(P) (Join to see) have you tried to have an in person hearing about the issue? They can at times expedite things, although they can take away some other options of appeal thereafter

Lets just created a cap at 140 day mark for O5 and below (Current timeline). If you get it sooner than its great but if it goes over the 140 day mark, then your promotion gets back date to there for pay and time in grade. I think this is the most equitable and helps the people that have been sitting on the lists for 300 days..

Ill vote for that!

Anyone have updates on P11?

MAJ (Join to see) - Nice!

MAJ (Join to see) - Alright!!! Finally! Congratulations!!!!

Just an FYI, I saw on another page that P12-17 published today.

Yep....lapped again....in the slow race to promotion

This is such nonsense!

And it looks like 14 published. That makes 12,13, and 14 ahead of 11. Comical....but congrats to those guys

Same day count 277 yet P09 signed before P08..

U10-17 published - DOR is 5 Jan 2018
Congrats to all on that scroll!

LTC (Join to see) - I got really excited for a minute, but I'm on P10-17...not U10-17. So close....

Why can’t P08-17 get fedrec

With all due respect, you seem to be confusing time in grade requirements (hence your comment of making COT in one year) with the administrative backlog of processing promotion orders.

My last promotion was in 2013. The Fed Rec process then took 30-90 days usually. Things have changed in the past 2 years. Right now I know people who have been waiting over a year to be Federally Recognized. They were selected for promotion by their state in Spring 2016 and are still waiting to pin over 16 months later. The rumor I hear is that NGB erroneously allowed a few packets to be sent forward that shouldn't have (e.g. people with pending IG, EO complaints, arrest records, etc.), so now every packet is being subjected to "Extreme Vetting". But even if that's just a rumor and turns out not to be true, then we still don't know why promotion processing now takes over 5 times as long as it did 4 years ago.

Thank you for your thoughtful response. I'm not confused. A portion of my reply was 'tongue in cheek' but the primary thoughts were not. I have the unique perspective of personal participation in three major conflicts and note from that experience a somewhat universal truth...during 'buildup' policies ease up; during 'let down' they tighten up again. I took full advantage of the 'ease up' part to go from CW2 to 1LT - quite a leap in grade at the time and absolutely unheard of prior to a wild idea proposed by some strap hanger back at the Pentagon, to entice battle tested experience to hang around in-country a little longer. I've seen obscene bonuses thrown around like candy to achieve the same, attached to fast-promotion promises. I'm fully aware of the difficulty to move forward in some aspects of our military - Active and Reserve. After all, a position must be open in order to promote into and that's hard when the juicy ones are locked in by homesteaders. But consider this as well...I punched every ticket out there and then some, always "available" and made a career out of that word. When a Battalion Commander job opened up, I was selected over dozens of other candidates due to my choice to always take the 'hard jobs.' I was only one of 56 Selectees world-wide to be promoted to 0-6 under the zone at first look, leaving hundreds of LTC's hanging with no where to go except retirement. But the end of my story isn't all glory - in full combat in Iraq, I received a notice from DA that due to the fact I was "born prior to March, 1949," I would not be promoted to Brigadier General (0-7). Too old for promotion but not too old to risk my life daily. I have no regrets. I spent two twenty-month tours in Iraq with young inexperienced service members in a Joint Command and could not have asked for a better assignment before giving it all up. I understand that 'system' problems are causing quite an issue now, but that hasn't changed. I simply called the applicable HQ and spoke to someone in HR to run down any question I had; completely going around any and all 'systems' for the information I needed. JCH

COL John Hudson - Outstanding response. And still true.

CPT (Join to see) - It's a shame, because the Guard will continue to hemorrhage their Officers until something changes. I am not sure which way I will go. I want to stay with my current unit, and will until my XO and (if they ask me to) Company Command tours are over....but I also want to get promoted in a timely fashion.

1SG Aaron Martin - I agree with you 100%, Top. I can't speak for anyone else, but the amount of malarkey I have been put through to pick up Captain is a morale crusher. I submitted my first promotion packet in Summer 2016. I am now at a year in waiting on my second packet, on the same scroll as LT Cole.

MAJ (Join to see) - I can't go through this process again. I report to CCC next Sunday, so once that is complete I plan on working my way into the Reserves.

CPT (Join to see) - I certainly don't blame you. It's just sad to watch the Guard needlessly lose Officers.

I think this is a bit outdated but I got my promotion orders today! Finally a MAJOR! Thanks for the constant updates!

CPT (Join to see) - Congrats. I noticed that I have not seen any "check iPerms" under the notifications. Now I'll have to keep checking iPerms. lol

CPT (Join to see) I'm on PL09-18, seems like we were moving too fast to be true and just came to a long stop at SECDEF. In 55 days we got through every step but the last. Now we are at 91.

LTC (Join to see) - I feel you, 'm at day 105 as of this morning (though I truly am not complaining, this is definitely shorter than in the past). I cant remember if tomorrow is considered a federal holiday, so maybe there will be news tomorrow. If not, next week it'll be.

7 JUN is still the most up to date status

LTC (Join to see) - 7 JUN is still the most current