Posted on Sep 8, 2016
Why is there such a long wait for reserve component officer and warrant federal recognition/promotion?
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Can anyone tell me why the process takes so long for RC officer/warrant promotions to run through the FedRec cycle? I'm an ARNG officer and I've had my state promotion orders for CPT since the middle of April. I've been tracking my packet on the ARNG-G1 website and it was awaiting addition to a scroll until a month ago and last week the scroll was ready to start the approval DoD cycle. Thoughts?
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Well from the National Guard side of things you can be eligible for promotion for ever, but until a position opens up your staying right where you are regardless if you like it or not. On top of that we have to be recognized by two different sources, the state recognizes us and then it has to go up to FED REC to become official and why it takes so long, FED REC makes a priority to promote active duty over reserve, so we get the shit end of the process regardless. Honestly the military needs to do a complete overhaul of the promotion board process. When things stop moving smoothly and in a timely manner, problems need to be solved and processes need to be updated, this has been going on for years, so what they are waiting for I don't know.
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MAJ (Join to see)
All true statements. Just curious though, are you commenting to someone else's comment, or the original 4 year old post?
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1LT (Join to see)
MAJ (Join to see) - HAHA just commenting on the original post. Popped up on my feed and didn't look at the date.
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Does anyone have an update for L04-19? Any information would help. Thank you.
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UPDATE: As the senate is not in session from 16 Dec - 6 Jan, expect no updates:
As of 13 DEC 2019:
L04-19 – Office of SecDef
PL25-19 – ASA (MR&A) (Yes, the scrolls are out of order)
PL26-19 - Chief of Staff/Army
PL01-20 - Adverse Screening
PL02-20 - Adverse Screening
PL03-20 - Adverse Screening
PL0420 – OTJAG
PL05-20 - OTJAG
PL06-20 - OTJAG
PL07-20 - OTJAG
SL07-19 - Office of the SecDef
SL01-20 – ASA (M&RA)
SL02-20 - ASA (M&RA
SL03-20 – OTJAG
U(d)21-19 - Adverse Screening
U01-20 - ASA (M&RA)
U02-20 - ASA (M&RA)
U03-20 - OTJAG
As of 13 DEC 2019:
L04-19 – Office of SecDef
PL25-19 – ASA (MR&A) (Yes, the scrolls are out of order)
PL26-19 - Chief of Staff/Army
PL01-20 - Adverse Screening
PL02-20 - Adverse Screening
PL03-20 - Adverse Screening
PL0420 – OTJAG
PL05-20 - OTJAG
PL06-20 - OTJAG
PL07-20 - OTJAG
SL07-19 - Office of the SecDef
SL01-20 – ASA (M&RA)
SL02-20 - ASA (M&RA
SL03-20 – OTJAG
U(d)21-19 - Adverse Screening
U01-20 - ASA (M&RA)
U02-20 - ASA (M&RA)
U03-20 - OTJAG
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2LT (Join to see)
CPT (Join to see) - Mine still shows Awaiting Dir of Mil Pers Mgmt. Do you have a different portal/access that I am not tracking?
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2LT (Join to see) - It's an out of office response from someone at NGB. There has been so much attention to this process and questions, the team there has this set up for people to get some answers. If you go to your military email, search the global address for Moore, Ricci E, and select her email. DON'T hit send, but wait a second and an out of office reply will appear at the top of your email. Hover your mouse over it for a couple seconds and the full message will appear. This shows the status for FEDREC scrolls. As of today, the message reads the same and says the Senate is not in session until 6 Jan. So don't expect any further updates until at least the second week in JAN.
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It takes everything a lot longer in the reserves . Mainly because there are so full staffers in the reserves
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Does anyone have an update on the scrolls? A fellow warrant in my unit said he had orders that published in his iPERMS, but I am not aware of his scroll number.
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ARMY DIRECTIVE 2019-28, AUTHORITY TO ADJUST EFFECTIVE DATE OF PROMOTION OF A RESERVE COMMISSIONED OFFICER IN THE EVENT OF UNDUE DELAY IN FEDERAL RECOGNITION OF PROMOTION, 19 SEP 19. This directive establishes policy for identifying and addressing delays in processing Army National Guard (ARNG) unit vacancy promotion Federal recognition actions pursuant to Title 10, US Code, section 14308(f). https://www.milsuite.mil/book/docs/DOC-673832
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CW3(P) (Join to see)
Looks like it wont apply if "The delay is not the result of a promotion review based on adverse information pertaining to an officer whose name appears on the promotion appointment scroll discovered through exemplary conduct screening." which is the cause of a lot of delays.
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Scrolls As of 09 Sept, next update projected on 16 Sept:
L03-19........ASA (M&RA)
PL17-19.....OSD
PL18-19.....OSD
PL19-19.....Adverse
PL20-19.....OSD
PL21-19.....Adverse
PL22-19.....Adverse
PL23-19.....OTJAG
SL03-19.......OSD
SL04-19.......OSD
SL05-19.......OSD
SL06-19.......OSD
SL07-19.....OTJAG
U12-19......OSD
U13-19......OSD
U(d)14-19..ASA (M&RA)
U15-19......OSD
U16-19......OSD
U17-19......OSD
U18-19.....OTJAG
U19-19.....OTJAG
L03-19........ASA (M&RA)
PL17-19.....OSD
PL18-19.....OSD
PL19-19.....Adverse
PL20-19.....OSD
PL21-19.....Adverse
PL22-19.....Adverse
PL23-19.....OTJAG
SL03-19.......OSD
SL04-19.......OSD
SL05-19.......OSD
SL06-19.......OSD
SL07-19.....OTJAG
U12-19......OSD
U13-19......OSD
U(d)14-19..ASA (M&RA)
U15-19......OSD
U16-19......OSD
U17-19......OSD
U18-19.....OTJAG
U19-19.....OTJAG
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WO1 (Join to see)
WOW! 12+ scrolls at OSD. (there are some scrolls that don't appear on this update)
I wonder how long they have been at OSD.
I wonder how long they have been at OSD.
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As of 16 Aug..
L3-19........JAG
PL17-19.....ASA
PL18-19.....ASA
PL19-19.....Adverse
PL20-19.....CSA
PL21-19.....Adverse
PL22-19.....Adverse
SL3-19.......OSD
SL4-19.......OSD
SL5-19.......OSD
SL6-19.......CSA
U12-19......CSA
U13-19......CSA
U(d)14-19..ASA
U15-19......ASA
U16-19......CSA
U17-19......CSA
L3-19........JAG
PL17-19.....ASA
PL18-19.....ASA
PL19-19.....Adverse
PL20-19.....CSA
PL21-19.....Adverse
PL22-19.....Adverse
SL3-19.......OSD
SL4-19.......OSD
SL5-19.......OSD
SL6-19.......CSA
U12-19......CSA
U13-19......CSA
U(d)14-19..ASA
U15-19......ASA
U16-19......CSA
U17-19......CSA
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Per Miss Ricci Moore: Today is Friday 9 AUG 2019 and I am away from my desk. I will return on Monday 12 AUG 2019, and respond to all E-mail at my first opportunity.
Please be mindful that CURRENT EVENTS impact the scrolls presently at the HIGHEST LEVEL. All scrolls will be published for generation of Promotion Orders when received.
Please ensure all questions/concerns/comments for the NGB FEDREC Section are sent to the group E-mail box below:
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As of 08 AUG 2019:
L02-19 - Check iPERMS for published orders
L03-19 - OTJAG
PL13-19 - Check iPERMS for published orders
PL15-19 - Check iPERMS for published orders
PL16-19 - Check iPERMS for published orders
PL17-19 - Adverse Screening
PL18-19 - Adverse Screening
PL19-19 - Adverse Screening
PL20-19 - Adverse Screening
PL21-19 - OTJAG
PL22-19 - OTJAG
SL03-19 - Office of the SecDef
SL04-19 - Office of the SecDef
SL05-19 - Office of the SecDef
SL06-19 - OTJAG
U(d)9-19 - Check iPERMS for published orders
U11-19 - Check iPERMS for published orders
U12-19 - Adverse Screening
U13-19 - Adverse Screening
U(d)14-19 - Adverse Screening
U15-19 - Adverse Screening
U16-19 - OTJAG
U17-19 - OTJAG
Please be mindful that CURRENT EVENTS impact the scrolls presently at the HIGHEST LEVEL. All scrolls will be published for generation of Promotion Orders when received.
Please ensure all questions/concerns/comments for the NGB FEDREC Section are sent to the group E-mail box below:
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As of 08 AUG 2019:
L02-19 - Check iPERMS for published orders
L03-19 - OTJAG
PL13-19 - Check iPERMS for published orders
PL15-19 - Check iPERMS for published orders
PL16-19 - Check iPERMS for published orders
PL17-19 - Adverse Screening
PL18-19 - Adverse Screening
PL19-19 - Adverse Screening
PL20-19 - Adverse Screening
PL21-19 - OTJAG
PL22-19 - OTJAG
SL03-19 - Office of the SecDef
SL04-19 - Office of the SecDef
SL05-19 - Office of the SecDef
SL06-19 - OTJAG
U(d)9-19 - Check iPERMS for published orders
U11-19 - Check iPERMS for published orders
U12-19 - Adverse Screening
U13-19 - Adverse Screening
U(d)14-19 - Adverse Screening
U15-19 - Adverse Screening
U16-19 - OTJAG
U17-19 - OTJAG
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L02-19 has published!!!! Hopefully that is a good sign for the rest of the scrolls at OSD
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Per Ricci Moore: Please be mindful that CURRENT EVENTS impact the scrolls presently at the HIGHEST LEVEL. All scrolls will be published for generation of Promotion Orders when received.
Please ensure all questions/concerns/comments for the NGB FEDREC Section are sent to the group E-mail box below:
[login to see]
As of 05 AUG 2019:
L02-19 - Office of the SecDef
L03-19 - OTJAG
PL11-19 - Check iPERMS for published orders
PL13-19 - Office of the SecDef (Yes, the scrolls are out of order)
PL15-19 - Office of the SecDef
PL16-19 - Office of the SecDef
PL17-19 - Adverse Screening
PL18-19 - Adverse Screening
PL19-19 - Adverse Screening
PL20-19 - Adverse Screening
PL21-19 - OTJAG
PL22-19 - OTJAG
SL03-19 - Office of the SecDef
SL04-19 - Office of the SecDef
SL05-19 - Office of the SecDef
SL06-19 - OTJAG
U(d)9-19 - Office of the SecDef
U11-19 - Check iPERMS for published orders
U12-19 - Adverse Screening
U13-19 - Adverse Screening
U(d)14-19 - Adverse Screening
U15-19 - Adverse Screening
U16-19 - OTJAG
U17-19 - OTJAG
Please ensure all questions/concerns/comments for the NGB FEDREC Section are sent to the group E-mail box below:
[login to see]
As of 05 AUG 2019:
L02-19 - Office of the SecDef
L03-19 - OTJAG
PL11-19 - Check iPERMS for published orders
PL13-19 - Office of the SecDef (Yes, the scrolls are out of order)
PL15-19 - Office of the SecDef
PL16-19 - Office of the SecDef
PL17-19 - Adverse Screening
PL18-19 - Adverse Screening
PL19-19 - Adverse Screening
PL20-19 - Adverse Screening
PL21-19 - OTJAG
PL22-19 - OTJAG
SL03-19 - Office of the SecDef
SL04-19 - Office of the SecDef
SL05-19 - Office of the SecDef
SL06-19 - OTJAG
U(d)9-19 - Office of the SecDef
U11-19 - Check iPERMS for published orders
U12-19 - Adverse Screening
U13-19 - Adverse Screening
U(d)14-19 - Adverse Screening
U15-19 - Adverse Screening
U16-19 - OTJAG
U17-19 - OTJAG
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CW2 (Join to see)
Is there a flow chart of what office is where in this whole process? Just curious because last update had U12-19 at OTJAG and now it's at Adverse Screening. I was told OTJAG was after Adverse Screening. Is there a reason why a scroll would go back a level?
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MAJ (Join to see)
CW2 (Join to see) - I found several flowcharts on google. But that is interesting that a scroll would move backwards.
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