Posted on Sep 8, 2016
Why is there such a long wait for reserve component officer and warrant federal recognition/promotion?
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Can anyone tell me why the process takes so long for RC officer/warrant promotions to run through the FedRec cycle? I'm an ARNG officer and I've had my state promotion orders for CPT since the middle of April. I've been tracking my packet on the ARNG-G1 website and it was awaiting addition to a scroll until a month ago and last week the scroll was ready to start the approval DoD cycle. Thoughts?
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Just got word from my state OPM that my scroll was published yesterday at 13:36! The wait is finally over! Just waiting for it to hit IPERMS!
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I don't believe NGB has a clue once it reaches SECDEF (and likely wouldn't ask). They likely wouldn't even want to trouble the Pentagon with such a trivial inquiry. This marks day 175 which equates the total number of days P01-17 spent in scroll (according to the previous forum posts). It's like holding your breath under water. We can now celebrate we went longer than the last group.
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1LT (Join to see) - Do you have contact info for SFC Palmer? I tried looking in AKO, but no luck
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Even though the G1 tracker has not been updated, NGB has informed me that scroll P01-17 has been signed and published. They said check with your state OPM for a copy of your orders. Congrats to everyone else on that scroll. I'll post the date on my orders so that the people on the next scroll can have an idea of how close they are to having orders in hand.
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The tracker changed today (06APR17) so I posted the picture. Scroll published yesterday.
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The tracker changed today (06APR17) so I posted the picture. Scroll published yesterday.
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That's great news...congrats! Hopefully U01-17 is not far behind. From what I recall my scroll was about 2-3 days behind yours based on the ticker count.
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I have not commented on any of the posts, but I have been reading the posts and experiencing the pain with you all. I am on P02-17 and have been patiently waiting along with the rest of you. I work as an aide for our TAG and I will say this issue has been getting A LOT of attention as of lately. I know the CNGB has been made aware in a very "blunt" way from several of the TAGs. The downside with us Guard and Reserve is that for a lot of change to happen for "us" it has to be initiated through our congressional delegates. With that being said here comes the dreaded "Write your congressman" speech. But, seriously take 20 minutes to sit down and write a letter to your governors and congressmen. Include the details good or bad of the process, the being kept in the dark about why it takes so long, families having to wait 10 plus months for a pay raise because of the process, the 13 or so offices it has to go through for whatever reason. We wonder why Soldiers leave the service bitter and upset... This process has been broken for a long time and it is even worse for you Warrant Officers out there! No one at NGB or higher is going to fix the issue themselves. They aren't on scrolls like we are so they aren't waiting to be promoted. I want to congratulate all of the ones that just had their orders published! Hopefully this process will be streamlined in the future. In the meantime we will wait and see what the tracker says tomorrow.
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MAJ(P) (Join to see)
Good addition. That was going to be my next move was to write my congressman. If we all take the time to do that, we stand a chance at getting this fixed. Of just a few say something, nothing will happen.
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1LT (Join to see) - Well said! I plan on doing so once my orders get published so I have a clear "it started here & ended here" tale for my reps.
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Everyone should check their FEDREC trackers... A bunch of orders seem to have published over the weekend...
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Please be mindful that CURRENT EVENTS impact scrolls presently at the HIGHEST LEVEL. All scrolls will published for generation of promotion orders when received.
** The rest of the message was the as of July 12th update **
L02-19 Office of SecDef
L03-19 OTJAG
PL09-19 Check iPerms for published orders
PL11-19 Office of SecDef (yes the scrolls are out of order)
PL12-19 Check iPerms for published orders
PL13-19 Office of SecDef (yes the scrolls are out of order)
PL14-19 Check iPerms for published orders
PL15-19 Office of SecDef
PL16-19 Office of SecDef
PL17-19 OTJAG
PL18-19 OTJAG
PL19-19 OTJAG
SL03-19 Office of SecDef
SL04-19 Office of SecDef
SL05-19 Office of SecDef
U06-19 Check iPerms for published orders
U07-19 Check iPerms for published orders
** The rest of the message was the as of July 12th update **
L02-19 Office of SecDef
L03-19 OTJAG
PL09-19 Check iPerms for published orders
PL11-19 Office of SecDef (yes the scrolls are out of order)
PL12-19 Check iPerms for published orders
PL13-19 Office of SecDef (yes the scrolls are out of order)
PL14-19 Check iPerms for published orders
PL15-19 Office of SecDef
PL16-19 Office of SecDef
PL17-19 OTJAG
PL18-19 OTJAG
PL19-19 OTJAG
SL03-19 Office of SecDef
SL04-19 Office of SecDef
SL05-19 Office of SecDef
U06-19 Check iPerms for published orders
U07-19 Check iPerms for published orders
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I'm sure this will speed things up... https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/18/politics/shanahan-out-defense-secretary/index.html
Shanahan withdraws as Trump's defense pick, as domestic incidents resurface
President Donald Trump said Tuesday that acting Defense Secretary Patrick Shanahan has "decided not to go forward with his confirmation process." Shanahan's withdrawal was announced shortly after the Washington Post published a report detailing a violent incident in 2011 in which his son attacked his own mother with a baseball bat.
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This could make it better...Esper is a former Guard Soldier.
https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2018/04/13/army-could-give-back-pay-to-guard-officers-who-are-promoted-but-waiting-for-pay-raises/
https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2018/04/13/army-could-give-back-pay-to-guard-officers-who-are-promoted-but-waiting-for-pay-raises/
Army could give back pay to Guard officers who are promoted but waiting for pay raises
The National Guard has been struggling with a backlog of recently promoted soldiers who are awaiting confirmation of their new pay grades.
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Update As of 31 MAY:
L02-19 - Adverse Screening
PL06-19 - Check Iperms
PL07-19 - Office of the Secretary of Defense
PL08-19 - Office of the Secretary of Defense
PL09-19 - Office of the Secretary of Defense
PL10-19 - Office of the Secretary of Defense
PL11-19 - Adverse Screening
PL12-19 - Chief of Staff - Army
PL13-19 - Adverse Screening
PL14-19 - Adverse Screening
PL15-19 - Adverse Screening
PL16-19 - Adverse Screening
SL03-19 - Adverse Screening
SL04-19 - Adverse Screening
U06-19 - Office Secretary of Defense
U07-19 - Chief of Staff - Army
U08-19 - Chief of Staff - Army
U(d)9-19 - Adverse Screening
U10-19 - Adverse Screening
U11-19 - Adverse Screening
U12-19 - OTJAG
L02-19 - Adverse Screening
PL06-19 - Check Iperms
PL07-19 - Office of the Secretary of Defense
PL08-19 - Office of the Secretary of Defense
PL09-19 - Office of the Secretary of Defense
PL10-19 - Office of the Secretary of Defense
PL11-19 - Adverse Screening
PL12-19 - Chief of Staff - Army
PL13-19 - Adverse Screening
PL14-19 - Adverse Screening
PL15-19 - Adverse Screening
PL16-19 - Adverse Screening
SL03-19 - Adverse Screening
SL04-19 - Adverse Screening
U06-19 - Office Secretary of Defense
U07-19 - Chief of Staff - Army
U08-19 - Chief of Staff - Army
U(d)9-19 - Adverse Screening
U10-19 - Adverse Screening
U11-19 - Adverse Screening
U12-19 - OTJAG
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MAJ (Join to see)
The system is either down or is not being updated. Scroll 09-19 has been sitting at "80" days for three or four days now.
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1LT (Join to see)
Scroll P11-19 just changed today from O days in cycle to, "Awaiting Dir of Mil Pers Mgmt; P11-19; 84 Days in DoD Approval cycle."
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My tracker updated today as well. U06-19 is at OSD with 129 days in the approval cycle.
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As of 29 APR 2019:
L02-19 - Adverse Screening
PL05-19 - Check iPERMS for published orders
PL06-19 - Vice Chief of Staff
PL07-19 - Vice Chief of Staff
PL08-19 - Vice Chief of Staff
PL09-19 - Vice Chief of Staff
PL10-19 - Secretary of the Army
PL11-19 - Adverse Screening
PL12-19 - Adverse Screening
SL03-19 - Adverse Screening
SL04-19 - Adverse Screening
U06-19 - Adverse Screening
U07-19 - Adverse Screening
U08-19 - Adverse Screening
U(d)9-19 - Adverse Screening
U10-19 - Adverse Screening
U11-19 - OTJAG
L02-19 - Adverse Screening
PL05-19 - Check iPERMS for published orders
PL06-19 - Vice Chief of Staff
PL07-19 - Vice Chief of Staff
PL08-19 - Vice Chief of Staff
PL09-19 - Vice Chief of Staff
PL10-19 - Secretary of the Army
PL11-19 - Adverse Screening
PL12-19 - Adverse Screening
SL03-19 - Adverse Screening
SL04-19 - Adverse Screening
U06-19 - Adverse Screening
U07-19 - Adverse Screening
U08-19 - Adverse Screening
U(d)9-19 - Adverse Screening
U10-19 - Adverse Screening
U11-19 - OTJAG
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CW3 (Join to see) - Thanks for the response Chief. My S-1 is trying to track it as well, but they esentially told us it would take 3-6 months for it to play out, but that I wouldn't be able to track it. Just seems like its a way for them to avoid accountability on tracking it. The last update I got frm HRC was over two months ago saying it left OTJAG and was back at DMPM. Nothing shows up on the NGB fed rec portal either.
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Had published orders in iPERMS this morning. Scroll L01-19
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As of 21 Dec 18
L04-18 – OSD
L01-19 - OTJAG
PL13-18 - OSD
PL14-18 - OSD <----update
PL15-18 - OSD <----update
PL01-19 - CSA
PL02-19 - ASA <--- update
PL03-19 - Adverse Screening
SL06-18 - OSD <----update
SL01-19 - CSA
SL02-19 - CSA <----update
U(d) 15-18 - OSD
U(d) 5-19 - OTJAG <---update
U12-18 - OSD <---update
U13-18 - Sec Army
U14-18 - OSD <----update
U01-19 - Adverse Screening <---update
U02-19 - Adverse Screening <---update
U03-19 - OTJAG <---update
U04-19 - OTJAG <---update
Merry Christmas!
L04-18 – OSD
L01-19 - OTJAG
PL13-18 - OSD
PL14-18 - OSD <----update
PL15-18 - OSD <----update
PL01-19 - CSA
PL02-19 - ASA <--- update
PL03-19 - Adverse Screening
SL06-18 - OSD <----update
SL01-19 - CSA
SL02-19 - CSA <----update
U(d) 15-18 - OSD
U(d) 5-19 - OTJAG <---update
U12-18 - OSD <---update
U13-18 - Sec Army
U14-18 - OSD <----update
U01-19 - Adverse Screening <---update
U02-19 - Adverse Screening <---update
U03-19 - OTJAG <---update
U04-19 - OTJAG <---update
Merry Christmas!
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