Posted on Sep 8, 2016
Why is there such a long wait for reserve component officer and warrant federal recognition/promotion?
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Can anyone tell me why the process takes so long for RC officer/warrant promotions to run through the FedRec cycle? I'm an ARNG officer and I've had my state promotion orders for CPT since the middle of April. I've been tracking my packet on the ARNG-G1 website and it was awaiting addition to a scroll until a month ago and last week the scroll was ready to start the approval DoD cycle. Thoughts?
Edited 8 y ago
Posted 8 y ago
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As of 22 FEB 2019:
L01-19 - OSD
PL01-19 - Check iPERMS for published orders
PL02-19 - Check iPERMS for published orders
PL03-19 - OSD
PL04-19 - CSA
PL05-19 - CSA
SL06-18 - OSD
SL01-19 - OSD
SL02-19 - OSD
U(d) 05-19 - OSD
U14-18 - Check iPERMS for published orders
U01-19 - CSA (yes, the scrolls are still ot of order)
U02-19 - Check iPERMS for published orders ( yes, this is correct - the scrolls are out of order)
U03-19 - CSA
U04-19 - CSA
U06-19 - OTJAG
L01-19 - OSD
PL01-19 - Check iPERMS for published orders
PL02-19 - Check iPERMS for published orders
PL03-19 - OSD
PL04-19 - CSA
PL05-19 - CSA
SL06-18 - OSD
SL01-19 - OSD
SL02-19 - OSD
U(d) 05-19 - OSD
U14-18 - Check iPERMS for published orders
U01-19 - CSA (yes, the scrolls are still ot of order)
U02-19 - Check iPERMS for published orders ( yes, this is correct - the scrolls are out of order)
U03-19 - CSA
U04-19 - CSA
U06-19 - OTJAG
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Thanks to MAJ (Join to see) for the assist!
As of 16 Nov 18
L04-18 – ASA (M&RA)
PL12-18 - OSD
PL13-18 - CSA
PL14-18 - ASA (M&RA)
PL15-18 - ASA (M&RA)
PL01-19 - OTJAG
SL06-18 - ASA (M&RA)
SL01-19 - OTJAG
U(d) 11-18 - OSD
U(d) 15-18 - Adverse Screening
U10-18 - OSD
U12-18 - Adverse Screening
U13-18 - Adverse Screening
U14-18 - Adverse Screening
U01-19 - OTJAG
U02-19 - OTJAG
probably won't be another update until after the 26th.
As of 16 Nov 18
L04-18 – ASA (M&RA)
PL12-18 - OSD
PL13-18 - CSA
PL14-18 - ASA (M&RA)
PL15-18 - ASA (M&RA)
PL01-19 - OTJAG
SL06-18 - ASA (M&RA)
SL01-19 - OTJAG
U(d) 11-18 - OSD
U(d) 15-18 - Adverse Screening
U10-18 - OSD
U12-18 - Adverse Screening
U13-18 - Adverse Screening
U14-18 - Adverse Screening
U01-19 - OTJAG
U02-19 - OTJAG
probably won't be another update until after the 26th.
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I know its been a while, sorry about that. As I have said, I cant generate the data I use for this chart, I just massage what I am sent by our HR people....
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MAJ Kahren Aydinyan
CPT (Join to see) - Wow that's nice, your date of rank is almost a month prior to it showing up on iPerms.
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MAJ (Join to see)
Congratulations to all of us...here's to hoping the issues get resolved so it's not so painful the next time around.
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Fed Rec Scroll update as of 01 Mar 2018 from our State G1 HR WO. I'm on U11-17 and patiently waiting here in California.
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A couple of things might affect this process.
1. Primarily, NGB has been working with DA to get a lot more of the prescreening done. It was felt this would really help move things along.
2. I dont know exactly when the process "went digital", but that will help as well. I read somewhere on here that it was mid FY17, but not sure.
3. Going digital on TMT also helped improve status reporting. In some cases, it may be that improved reporting just made it seem like things are catching up.
4. Finally, and biggest, as I have said before, this is just normal staffing of documents. NOTHING gets put under the boss's pen or passed to the next office until it has been put under the microscope. The recent article in the NGAUS talked about parallel processes. I dont see that ever happening. There are some, like JAG that might do a little. But fact is, nothing goes to SecArmy until the CSA chops, and nothing goes to the CSA until the VCSA sees it, and nothing goes to VCSA until the Director of the Army Staff approves. Those things will ALWAYS be serial processes, because thats how Staffs work.
1. Primarily, NGB has been working with DA to get a lot more of the prescreening done. It was felt this would really help move things along.
2. I dont know exactly when the process "went digital", but that will help as well. I read somewhere on here that it was mid FY17, but not sure.
3. Going digital on TMT also helped improve status reporting. In some cases, it may be that improved reporting just made it seem like things are catching up.
4. Finally, and biggest, as I have said before, this is just normal staffing of documents. NOTHING gets put under the boss's pen or passed to the next office until it has been put under the microscope. The recent article in the NGAUS talked about parallel processes. I dont see that ever happening. There are some, like JAG that might do a little. But fact is, nothing goes to SecArmy until the CSA chops, and nothing goes to the CSA until the VCSA sees it, and nothing goes to VCSA until the Director of the Army Staff approves. Those things will ALWAYS be serial processes, because thats how Staffs work.
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CW5 (Join to see)
Along those lines, in my case (U01-18), I noticed that the above report showed us out of JAG at DMPM. The image says it is as of 1 Mar, but two of the scrolls say "published 2 Mar", so its off a little. Still, it wasnt until 20 Mar that my info on the G1 portal updated to show that. Its expected, not a problem, but one more anecdote about how all the databases operate at different levels of accuracy because of manual updates.
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CW5 (Join to see) - In your opinion, which is the longer wait? JAG or DMPM? I am on P04-18 and was very surprised that we were only at OTJAG for around 40 days. I have seen several folks post here that in some cases they have been at OTJAG for 150 days or more. Perhaps they are starting to streamline the process. I have been in for 22 years, prior NCO / WO, so these long waits are discouraging because I am hoping to retire as a LTC and everyday this process drags on makes that less likely.
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Is there any correlation between the wait times of Scrolls for O grade officers versus U for Warrant Officers? just curious if it's faster or slower?
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Update as of 20 Feb. Looks like there might be a little movement....
Added a new sheet. This shows the status of each scroll over the last month, with yellow highlights indicating movement. Just seemed like an interesting exercise...
Added a new sheet. This shows the status of each scroll over the last month, with yellow highlights indicating movement. Just seemed like an interesting exercise...
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CW5 (Join to see) - Chief, do you have any guesses as to why your State hasn't sent you the regular updates they have in the past? Thank you so much for sending out all of this valuable information as often as you have. I'm on P10-17 and it's starting to feel like that YouTube video of the kid after his dentist appointment: "Is it going to be like this forever?"
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I expect (hope) we get an update this week. The person that generates the report has been at school for 3 weeks and today is his first day back...
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Does anyone know if there is a mechanism in place, let's say going from T-32 to T-10 for a deployment that can be leveraged to make my promotion faster? I'm eligible now and I have just switched to T-10 and was wondering if something I can do. I am on a scroll already U04-18 say's on the counter 67 days in yellow, but my packet has been at NGB for 200+ days any ideas? one other question, is it the total days a person's packet has been at NGB that people are counting or what the counter is saying theirs is at that people are commenting on? because if thats the case I'm F--CK if my counter is only showing 67 i got a long way to go based off the current number most people are getting promoted at.
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Latest Update I can find. Hope it helps.
Please be mindful CURRENT EVENTS ARE IMPACTING THE SCROLLS AT ALL LEVELS!!!!
All scrolls WILL BE PUBLISHED for generation of Promotion Orders AT OUR FIRST OPPORTUNITY!!!!
As of 20 OCT 2020
L02-20 - Office of the SecArmy
L03-20 - Office of the SecArmy
L04-20 - Adverse Actions
PL22-20 - Office of the SecDef
PL23-20 - Office of the SecDef
PL24-20 - Office of the SecDef
PL25-20 - Office of the SecDef
PL26-20 - Office of SecArmy
PL27-20 - Office of SecArmy
PL28-20 - Office of SecArmy
PL29-20 - Office of SecArmy
SL07-20 - Office of the SecDef
SL08-20 - Office of SecArmy
SL09-20 - Adverse Actions
U(d)18-20 - Office of SecArmy
U(d)24-20 - OTJAG
U15-20 - Check iPERMS for published order
U17-20 - Check iPERMS for published order
U19-20 - Check iPERMS for published order
U20-20 - Office of the SecDef
U21-20 - Office of SecArmy
U22-20 - Adverse Actions
Thanks for your patience!
Please be mindful CURRENT EVENTS ARE IMPACTING THE SCROLLS AT ALL LEVELS!!!!
All scrolls WILL BE PUBLISHED for generation of Promotion Orders AT OUR FIRST OPPORTUNITY!!!!
As of 20 OCT 2020
L02-20 - Office of the SecArmy
L03-20 - Office of the SecArmy
L04-20 - Adverse Actions
PL22-20 - Office of the SecDef
PL23-20 - Office of the SecDef
PL24-20 - Office of the SecDef
PL25-20 - Office of the SecDef
PL26-20 - Office of SecArmy
PL27-20 - Office of SecArmy
PL28-20 - Office of SecArmy
PL29-20 - Office of SecArmy
SL07-20 - Office of the SecDef
SL08-20 - Office of SecArmy
SL09-20 - Adverse Actions
U(d)18-20 - Office of SecArmy
U(d)24-20 - OTJAG
U15-20 - Check iPERMS for published order
U17-20 - Check iPERMS for published order
U19-20 - Check iPERMS for published order
U20-20 - Office of the SecDef
U21-20 - Office of SecArmy
U22-20 - Adverse Actions
Thanks for your patience!
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CW2(P) (Verify To See) - I guess the main question is, when or how long will it be until SecDef signs off on the packets once it reaches to SecDec.. Ah man. I am losing out on so much pay because of the delay but fingers crossed chief. Congrats on your promotion!
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No updates since 20 October and looks like the person providing them is out of the office until November 4. I wanted to give everyone interested a heads-up so they aren't continuously refreshing this post. lol
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LTC (Join to see) - lol thanks for the update. Been refreshing this page every single day for an update since G1 hasn't updated in over 7 days. I'll check back Nov 4-6th for an update.
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CW3 (Join to see) - Chief, apologies for what it may seem like a stupid question but how exactly do I receive backpay with this memo? Do I simply attach this memo along with my promotion orders (still waiting on SecDef) to my unit S1 or bring it over to the finance office?
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As of 13 MAY 2019:
L02-19 - Adverse Screening
PL06-19 - Office of the Secretary of Defense
PL07-19 - Office of the Secretary of Defense
PL08-19 - Office of the Secretary of Defense
PL09-19 - Office of the Secretary of Defense
PL10-19 - Office of the Secretary of Defense
PL11-19 - Adverse Screening
PL12-19 - Chief of Staff - Army
PL13-19 - Adverse Screening
PL14-19 - Adverse Screening
SL03-19 - Adverse Screening
SL04-19 - Adverse Screening
U06-19 - Chief of Staff - Army
U07-19 - Chief of Staff - Army
U08-19 - Chief of Staff - Army
U(d)9-19 - Adverse Screening
U10-19 - Adverse Screening
U11-19 - OTJAG
Seems like PL12-19 moved quite a bit since the previous update.
L02-19 - Adverse Screening
PL06-19 - Office of the Secretary of Defense
PL07-19 - Office of the Secretary of Defense
PL08-19 - Office of the Secretary of Defense
PL09-19 - Office of the Secretary of Defense
PL10-19 - Office of the Secretary of Defense
PL11-19 - Adverse Screening
PL12-19 - Chief of Staff - Army
PL13-19 - Adverse Screening
PL14-19 - Adverse Screening
SL03-19 - Adverse Screening
SL04-19 - Adverse Screening
U06-19 - Chief of Staff - Army
U07-19 - Chief of Staff - Army
U08-19 - Chief of Staff - Army
U(d)9-19 - Adverse Screening
U10-19 - Adverse Screening
U11-19 - OTJAG
Seems like PL12-19 moved quite a bit since the previous update.
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MAJ (Join to see)
CW2 B B - The 9 APR update (see previous thread) is the most recent one posted. Normally this is the best/most up to date place I've found
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MAJ (Join to see) - I agree, these are the best and most reliable updates I've seen.
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