Posted on Sep 8, 2016
Why is there such a long wait for reserve component officer and warrant federal recognition/promotion?
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Can anyone tell me why the process takes so long for RC officer/warrant promotions to run through the FedRec cycle? I'm an ARNG officer and I've had my state promotion orders for CPT since the middle of April. I've been tracking my packet on the ARNG-G1 website and it was awaiting addition to a scroll until a month ago and last week the scroll was ready to start the approval DoD cycle. Thoughts?
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Congratulations U06-18! U04-18, L03-18, and L02-18 need to chime-in to update us on their status.
Usually all the scrolls at SecDef are signed at the same time. If that's the case, P10-18 would become the oldest scroll at 143. If L03-18 published, it would really help bring the average scroll time down with only 114 days on scroll.
The system is not perfect yet, but since I've been tracking over the last 6 months, the process has gotten significantly better. I hope the people in DC that are assigned the project of improving the process don't read this and think they are done. We are far from done.
I have almost completed a whole NG deployment in an O3 slot. I'm missing $42 per day and performing a BDE Primary Staff position as an O2. The latter makes it difficult to interact with staff in my subordinate BNs as they outrank me.
Usually all the scrolls at SecDef are signed at the same time. If that's the case, P10-18 would become the oldest scroll at 143. If L03-18 published, it would really help bring the average scroll time down with only 114 days on scroll.
The system is not perfect yet, but since I've been tracking over the last 6 months, the process has gotten significantly better. I hope the people in DC that are assigned the project of improving the process don't read this and think they are done. We are far from done.
I have almost completed a whole NG deployment in an O3 slot. I'm missing $42 per day and performing a BDE Primary Staff position as an O2. The latter makes it difficult to interact with staff in my subordinate BNs as they outrank me.
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1LT (Join to see)
L02-18 and L03-18 still at OSD. I've been deployed for the entirety of my time on the scroll. After the input from CW5 Bruce B., I am guessing that L02 and L03 will publish mid-late OCT.
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CW2 (Join to see)
I'm on U04-18 been 225 and sitting at the SECDEF nothing has moved so i think technically we are the longest on the scroll.
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CW5 (Join to see)
should be immediate (1 day or less). Mine did. I believe NGB puts them in IPERMS, but your state has to update SIDPERS, etc...
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12-18 updated today and for the first time is showing an actual status of "Awaiting Off Dep Ch of Staff Personnel". Anybody know if that's what the process calls DCS, G1?
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MAJ (Join to see)
I wouldn't worry about tracking anything before your scroll gets to JAG. There are a few departments that never show up on the tracker. 10-18 hit JAG at 10 days on scroll. That was 36 days after the tracker first stated "Awaiting Scroll".
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MAJ (Join to see)
I'm on P12-18 as well. Status went from "Awaiting Off DEP CH of Staff Personnel" to "Awaiting Off of Judge Advocate General". This happened for the entire scroll... Any idea why it would go backwards? It's currently at 38 days.
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MAJ (Join to see)
06-18 is now over 180 days and has been at OSD for over a month. When the published order comes out, as it did for the previous two scrolls, the effective date was nearly the beginning of the month.
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1LT (Join to see)
MAJ (Join to see) - I certainly hope this is the case. Been at the SECDEF for over 30 days now.
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1LT (Join to see)
Still looks like 07-18 is at SECDEF, but I don't remember what we were at for days on the counter last week so I can't tell if it's updated or not.
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CPT (Join to see)
07-18 has been at SECDEF for about a month now. Hopefully we’ll get it at the end of the month next week.
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1LT (Join to see)
I want to say it will start moving but I have little faith we will see it before the end of August. Sadly the OSD is only supposed to take 21 days. Average at his level has been around 45 days.
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CW2 (Join to see)
Thank you! Me too, best of luck I hope you don't have to wait as long as I did, 290 days.
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1LT (Join to see)
CW2 (Join to see) - Yes but W01 to CW2 is back paid so its not a big deal to wait.
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CW2 (Join to see)
No its not a big deal for me on this one, I do feel for everyone that wont get their promotions back dated. I am fortunate that the BN I am in doesn't care whether I have one or two dots, however some do. I am sure its the same for 2LT to 1LT and a 1LT words will carry more weight. I assume the this is the reason W1-W2 and O1-O2 take longer, there isn't a rush because they are back dated. Best of luck to you and I really hope they get this process streamlined.
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CPT (Join to see)
You may want to message (or wait for a new update from) newly promoted CW5 Bruce B. He seems to be the golden source for tracking updates to promotion scrolls.
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LTC (Join to see)
P08-18 is at the Army G1 at 95 days on the tracker. Last I saw, P10-18 was less than a month behind P08. My best estimate watching the other scrolls is about mid-august for P8 so I would assume P10 would be early September, but those are all guesstimates.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but there is back pay from the DOR on FedRec for 1LT and up?
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CW5 (Join to see)
Yes.
Official DOR is (usually) set at the date OSD gives final approval for promotions to CPT and CW3 (and higher). Back pay to that date is paid.
For promotions to 1LT and CW2, DOR is usually the date eligible (mostly, TIG and PME requirements met) and back pay is paid.
Official DOR is (usually) set at the date OSD gives final approval for promotions to CPT and CW3 (and higher). Back pay to that date is paid.
For promotions to 1LT and CW2, DOR is usually the date eligible (mostly, TIG and PME requirements met) and back pay is paid.
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