Why is there such a long wait for reserve component officer and warrant federal recognition/promotion?

I wasn't even tracking the GOV shutdown potential, and we are supposed to have drill this weekend!

Yep, I’m at drill now (split training) and this Friday is our dining out, which I found out about on this forum (Thank you LT Felder). So,,other than this forum being a great outlet to vent our frustrations, it’s also works to remind someone to check their AKO now and then, with that someone being me. Otherwise, I would have shown up in my standard uniform: Ranger Panties, schmedium t-shirt, flip flops, a light coat of CLP, and a Cheshire Cat grin.

CW3 (Join to see) - Thank you for that image.

As per SOP

I did, except this time I wrote it all with one crayon. Its down to the nub now.

Well we aren't far from it.........
Awaiting Dir of Army Staff Appr; U06-17; 281 Days in DoD Approval cycle

See my reply above from 4 days ago, but I think it may be at OSD. Do not hold me to that, although it was information I learned after calling Renee Marshal's phone number. Instead, I spoke to another lady and when I gave her our scroll, she quickly replied it was sitting at SecDef. I would call back, but if they have caller ID, they may have already blocked my number. Perhaps I should call from a different number and when they ask my first and last name, I will reply with, "First name, Chief, last name, Warrant Officer."

Awaiting Dir of Army Staff Appr; U06-17; 293 Days in DoD Approval cycle

Awaiting Off of Sec of Defense approval; D08-17; 260 Days in DoD Approval cycle

CW3 (Join to see) - That scroll has been at SECDEF now for almost 2 months...

CW3 (Join to see) - Yeah I know, I really hope it publishes before the end of the year.

anyone have any updates with U10-17?

I read on one of these threads that the average “days scrolling” was 209 for P01 thru 07. At this points it’s a joke. There is no excuse at all.

I was a good sport about it for the first 120 days, but this is ridiculous. This type of thing doesn't happen with promotions in the civilian world.

It’s absurd. I was thinking today, how if you had a prior service person who is commissioned and is waiting on this for a retirement “high three” and how much it would screw them; pending their timeline!

I'm AGR and have 3 years, 9 months until I hit 20 years of active federal service. I'm still undecided if I'm going to retire at 20 AFS, but hopefully, it doesn't take another 9 months.

I am in U10-17, 210 days on the scroll....what is CW3 Poppy's email address?

Travis, we have 3 guys on your scroll in our unit. One of them is working wth Congresswoman Mia Loves office about your particular scroll. If he gets any substantive updates from them I'll post it here.

CW3 (Join to see) - I am in Mia Love's district too, on P08-17. Here is the final reply that I got:

Additionally, the District Director that I was corresponding with said that although he agrees that a year to process promotions is excessive, that unless the service has a recurring problem that cannot or is not being resolved internally, they are typically hands off. However, the squeaky wheel gets the grease, so the more people make this known, the greater the chance that there is meaningful change.

That is, however, I found the real one lying around the hidden archives at the Pentagon, sort of like that last scene in Indiana Jones and The Raiders of the Lost Ark. Yep, "We have our top men on it, our TOP men!"

I'm dead, Chief...HAHAHA

I don't envy Renee Marshall's position. She probably has no real control over what is happening, but is the POC for the FED REC system and is probably catching tremendous amounts of heat from it. It is great that people are having meetings and such, but action would be my preference. The meetings don't seem to be making a difference, as things are getting worse for those of us on the unfortunate older scrolls, and now the G1 trackers aren't even counting days. This process is slowly driving me insane. I have simply started referring to myself as "The Terminal LT" whenever someone asks when I am going to be promoted.

You are correct inasmuch as it seems in the government sector the GSs have meetings purely to have meetings, during which they plan for follow-on meetings to discuss what happened in the previous meeting, then they plan again for another future meeting. It is, indeed, a cyclic endeavor. And then there are the GSs who remind me of Milton Waddams from Office Space, the kind of folks who are there because, well, they just are, although we have no clue what it is they do. Nor do they have a clue; they simply show up to occupy that void in the aether. They even chime in on the meetings to agree or disagree on the topic, depending on which way the scale tips, answering with, "Whatever you are thinking I am positive it is correct." Or, they throw out a bunch of disjointed facts until one of them has some semblance of relevance to the topic, sort of like throwing a handful of darts with the hopes that one of them will hit the dart board. Yes, what I have just described is what occurs in the inner sanctum of the esteemed FedRec process, one in which all of us entrusted these Milton Waddams to walk our packets through this Rube Goldberg-like process.

Haha oh the insanity!

Now that we are entering the holiday season, I expect this process will come to a standstill. Hell, if these FedWreckers can’t complete this process on a regular work week (ha, that’s a relative term), then how can we expect them to accomplish this through November and December?

Yep we are moving! At least day wise, weve been at JAG for at least 50 days.

Get ready for a longgggg wait. P08-17 here and still waiting.

U11-17 still in JAG at 121 days 26 Oct 17.

P08-17 was in JAG from day 94 until day 183

Same here for 13-17. 83 days at JAG

seems like the count has started again and is up to date.
P05-17 published in 201 and that was a quick scroll. P09-17 was on track for that date up till this Asst Sec Army, Man, Res Affairs office got involved...

P01-18 hasn't had any movement since being moved from P16-17 in October. 90 zero days since that move and no other updates since my State order in August which is now over 5 months.. Over 190 days of zero day..

MAJ (Join to see) - I am approaching 365 days, if that makes you feel better. Hopefully they figure this mess out

I wouldn't be too caught up with the time lost. Especially as a CPT and below. Might actually turn out to be a blessing later. However this wait was ridiculous. Way too long.

Well as a prior enlisted who already has 20 years in, the lost time from when I took the CPT slot back on 10/1/2015 to almost two years later finally getting promoted is a killer in me wanting to retire as a MAJ. I had some thoughts of going for LTC but that is all but done now. And the two years of not getting promoted has put me behind some of my peers that got promoted by the mandatory boards. And that doesn't include the $3-5K that I lost in pay over the two years.

It makes no sense that as soon as you are assigned the position and are eligible for promotion that they don't make that your DOR and back pay you to that date. If you went through mandatory boards that would be the case. Somehow we get punished for being ahead of our peers. How is that fair?

What other job do you start a new position and not get paid the rate for the position.

So I thought I would actually figure out exactly how much money I lost. I had 128 drill periods in my current slot with a $47.41 pay difference for a total of $6068.48

Ouch. I don't think it would bother me so much if our Time in Grade and Pay were backdated to our state's promotion date. So far I have *only* lost ~$4,000 since I have been ADOS since May.