Posted on Sep 8, 2016
Why is there such a long wait for reserve component officer and warrant federal recognition/promotion?
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Can anyone tell me why the process takes so long for RC officer/warrant promotions to run through the FedRec cycle? I'm an ARNG officer and I've had my state promotion orders for CPT since the middle of April. I've been tracking my packet on the ARNG-G1 website and it was awaiting addition to a scroll until a month ago and last week the scroll was ready to start the approval DoD cycle. Thoughts?
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Unfortunately having to go they many wickets many systems don't talk to each other so they have to 'hand jam' data where there will be errors etc.
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ARNG Officers and Warrants used to only go as far as NGB for FEDREC. There was a special board and process. In 2014 or thereabouts that changed we now go through the same wickets at the Pentagon that our Active Duty and Reserve Component brethren do, which tripled the typical wait time, since we're all in the same queue now. It took me 8 months after getting my State order to get FEDREC'd. This is the new reality, so prepare and submit your future packets as soon as possible!
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The problem is that active and army reserve do not have to go through a state body. We do. And that state body will not promote you until you are at the date when you are eligible. So instead of you getting your stuff to fedrec months in advance to make sure your promotion isn't delayed, you have to wait for your state. Its incredibly short sighted that anyone thought this was a good idea.
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Spot on LT: concur! Title 10 and Title 32 personnel have radically different missions in their assigned units; why should we be shoe-horned into the same processes? It doesn't make any sense.
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In NYS our OPM allows WO's (I'm a prior CW2) to get state boarded before their eligibility so they can pull the trigger on FedRec the day they are promotable. Regular O's on the other hand have to wait. It took me months to get to the state promo board.... And I concur with what Mr. Michel said. Back in 2012 it took me less than 4 months from state orders until FedRec... Now, I am Scroll P04-18 Day #0... what's the under/over? haha
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Just spoke to CW3 Poppy about L02-17, and this is the response I got:
"This scroll is at OSD (SEC DEF) awaiting approval as of the status report dated 24 Jul 17. Request that you go through your State OPM to get status updates. We only get them once a month and we push them to the OPMs via MilSuite. Due to the number of inquiries on all the scrolls from individuals, we can no longer keep answering individuals. It is starting to affect our abilities to process scrolls."
So I guess we should all stop emailing people at NGB.
L02-17, day 196, OSD. Guess we'll be breaking 200 days on the tracker.
"This scroll is at OSD (SEC DEF) awaiting approval as of the status report dated 24 Jul 17. Request that you go through your State OPM to get status updates. We only get them once a month and we push them to the OPMs via MilSuite. Due to the number of inquiries on all the scrolls from individuals, we can no longer keep answering individuals. It is starting to affect our abilities to process scrolls."
So I guess we should all stop emailing people at NGB.
L02-17, day 196, OSD. Guess we'll be breaking 200 days on the tracker.
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Update on L02-17: Awaiting Off of SEC DEF Approval, day 176 on the tracker. finally moved after more than 100 days.
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Contact CW3 Poppy today for an update on P03-17:
"As of Monday, this scroll was at OSD - Office of Secretary of Defense. This is the approval level. Hopefully within the next 30-45 days, we will receive the approved/signed copy so we can publish orders."
"As of Monday, this scroll was at OSD - Office of Secretary of Defense. This is the approval level. Hopefully within the next 30-45 days, we will receive the approved/signed copy so we can publish orders."
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I was happy to see that as well. It's kind of sad that we get so excited to see a change on a scroll that should have NEVER taken this long. I consider us the P03-17 Band of Brothers/Sisters....lol. I truly hope it doesn't take another month to publish.
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Historically the previous scrolls have sat from 30-50 days prior to publication @ SECDEF......so we might have only a couple of months left to wait!!
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Who wants to do an over/under on whether P03-17 makes it to 365 on the fed rec counter?
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MAJ (Join to see) Where are you seeing this? G1 Website is still showing "Awaiting Off of Sec of Defense approval".
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CPT (Join to see) - I emailed SFC Palmer on Monday and she responded to my email today with the following: "Orders for P03-17 were published today. Orders should be in iPERMS within the next 48 hours."
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