Posted on Sep 8, 2016
MAJ(P) Brigade Communications Officer (S6)
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Can anyone tell me why the process takes so long for RC officer/warrant promotions to run through the FedRec cycle? I'm an ARNG officer and I've had my state promotion orders for CPT since the middle of April. I've been tracking my packet on the ARNG-G1 website and it was awaiting addition to a scroll until a month ago and last week the scroll was ready to start the approval DoD cycle. Thoughts?
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CPT(P) Defense Counsel
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P03-17 Update: The three soldiers with negative background information have been dropped from our scroll and we are moving ahead normally. I didn't get a timetable, but was assured we are now moving.
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I've been sitting in an 04 slot for 3 years now. I completed ILE as a CPT, have my masters degree and all educational requirements met. I originally submitted my packet as a unit vacancy promotion which I will NEVER do again. I watched as CPTs that don't have ILE or a masters degree get promoted because they were boarded and eeked their way through. In all actuality, it benefited them to procrastinate on their career while those who took the time to meet the expectations were placed on the back burner.
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CPT(P) Defense Counsel
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All 11 years I've been in vacancy promotions have been the gold standard. Clearly that isn't the case anymore.
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MAJ Physician Assistant
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Day 238..... so much for our "expedited " scroll......time for somebody else to ping NGB & see if they get the same standard "30-45 day till orders published" response that we have been getting for the past few months..........
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CPT(P) Defense Counsel
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P03-17 is at SecDef now. As soon as it is signed there we will at least have DOR. Maybe they can get the scroll published by next year.
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Well P02-17 may have been signed almost a week ago, but there is still no update on the tracker this morning and my state can't see anything. Sounds like it hasn't published yet.... and/or it's sitting in someone's inbox waiting, and waiting, and waiting for them to hit send and publish.. Good luck this week gentlemen.
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CPT Communications (S6)
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I'm on P03-17, just updated to 163.
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CPT Multifunctional Logistician
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CPT (Join to see) - Your TS means nothing when you are lumped in with a scroll. You will move as fast as the slowest person. The hold up is the process. I did send a note to NGAUS since they are suppose to be our advocates, and power is in numbers, but I do believe the problem is much, much deeper.
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This whole process is mind-blowing. How it can possibly take this long is unreal. I am at 143 days on P04-17 and I will hit one year since board on 27 June. There is no way I will see a published order before then. Hope those of you on P02-17 get it soon. Ridiculous!
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CPT Multifunctional Logistician
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Today marks day 185 for P02-17. If I recall correctly, day 185 was when P01-17 had their order published. According to the system, we are still awaiting SECDEF. I'm guessing now the person in charge took a large block of vacation, retired, etc. I wouldn't anticipate anything now until after Memorial Day weekend with the holidays and vacation planned around that time. June here we come!
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Anyone else in P04-17? I am at 132 days, red, still Awaiting Off of Judge Advocate General.
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MAJ (Join to see) - Has there been any movement on your packet? I checked this morning, and mine is in the JAG's office after being in the scroll created phase for more than a month. Is yours a vacancy promotion?
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CPT(P) (Join to see) - I was on P08-17, a UVP scroll. We ended up at around 290 days on scroll before it was published (I think it is actually 287 days, but I am not sure.) I submitted my promotion packet January 2017, DOR from the state was 15 Feb 2017. Fed Rec was finalized 2 Feb 2018, with DOR of 25 Jan 2018.
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CPT(P) Public Affairs Officer
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MAJ (Join to see) - Wow, that's ridiculous. They've got to fix the system.
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MAJ Battalion Pa
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CPT(P) (Join to see) - I couldn't agree with you more. I was losing my marbles with rage at how long it was taking. Supposedly there is high visibility and improvements coming down the pipeline, but I have not seen anything yet that has significantly improved the process.
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Sooooo, yesterday marks a year since my state orders to CW5, I hope not to celebrate another anniversary like this; Awaiting Dir of Army Staff Appr; U01-17; 160 Days in DoD Approval cycle
Number of Days 160
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CW4 Retired
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Chief, I'm with you, but kind of behind you. 140 not moving. I am hoping that it all happens some place between 170 and 180.
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CW2 Engineer Equipment Maintenance Warrant Officer
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U01-17 at SEC DEF this morning 3/30
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CW4 State Maintenance Officer
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Great!!! Thank you!!!
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CW4 Retired
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U02-17 moved the Awaiting Office or Secretary of Defense 141 this morning, 141 Days.
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COL Charles Williams
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I am guessing... MAJ(P) (Join to see), but I suspect it is all based on the current population... That is, you can't promoted until the space is available...
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MAJ(P) Brigade Communications Officer (S6)
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Roger, sir. If you're talking about slot availability, you're correct. However, at least in my case, that isn't the issue. I've been in an O3 Slot since I commissioned. The issue for me, as indicated in my other posts in this thread, is the Fed Rec system that ARNG warrants/officers have to go through before they can wear rank and get paid. My promotion orders from my state have been in iPERMS since last April. However, as we have figured out in the time this thread has been live, there's a huge bottleneck at NGB with this process and how it actually flows.

I realize the title of the post is misleading in that regard, and I apologize, but I song think I can change it and this point.
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Update;my packet just moved... Awaiting Dir of Army Staff Appr; U01-17; 147 Days in DoD Approval cycle. At least is out of the JAG office!!!
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CW4 Retired
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I am on U02-17 and mine moved to the same place at about the same time, I spent 119 days at Dep CoS G1 and now Awaiting Dir of Army Staff Appr; 133 days.
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CW4 State Maintenance Officer
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As of today; Awaiting Dir of Army Staff Appr; U01-17; 160 Days in DoD Approval cycle
Number of Days 160...and counting....
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CW4 State Maintenance Officer
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As of today; Still awaiting Dir of Army Staff Appr; U01-17; 165 Days in DOD approval cycle.........
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I just got on a scroll today! P06-21. Anyone else on this scroll with me?
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CW3 UH-60M Pilot
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Your watch begins...
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Any recent updates on scroll U(d)18-20?
Last I saw it was at Office of Sec Army.
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CW2 Executive Officer
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WO1 (Join to see) still at JAG, but its at 114 days. I feel like it’s not updated.
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CW2 Executive Officer
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WO1 R M Yea looking forward to that, but I feel like I’ve been a W1 for forever at this point haha
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Update** U(d) 18-20 is currently at SEC DEF.
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CPT Griff Tatum
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How long does it take to show your change of rank in systems like iperms, email, etc?
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CPT Griff Tatum
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But can I update my ID without it being official in the system? I have the order in iperms. CW2 John Gerlach
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For giggles...we know nothing really changed

As of 7 AUG 2020

L02-20 - Adverse Actions
L03-20 - Adverse Actions
PL18-20 - Check iPERMS for published order
PL19-20 - Check iPERMS for published order
PL20-20 - Check iPERMS for published order
PL21-20 - Check iPERMS for published order
PL22-20 - Office of the SecDef
SL05-20 - Office of the SecDef
SL06-20 - Office of the SecDef
SL07-20 - Adverse Actions
U(d)11-20 - Office of the SecDef
U(d)18-20 - Adverse Actions
U12-20 - Check iPERMS for published order
U13-20 - Check iPERMS for published order
U14-20 - Office of the SecDef
U15-20 - Adverse Actions
U16-20 - Adverse Actions
U17-20 - Adverse Actions
U19-20 - Adverse Actions
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2LT Project Manager (Military)
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2LT (Join to see) - I see OTJAG is only step 2 of 10, do you know if L02-20 has been stuck at JAG this whole time and we will need to wait another 90+ days to final get approved?
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2LT Field Artillery Officer
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2LT (Join to see) - I reached out to the fedrec office 2 weeks ago. The person I spoke to mentioned that a batch of 5 scrolls had moved from JAG/Adverse Actions to Office of SECDEF in one update. She assessed that it's likely L02-20 would get approved within the next 30 days....no guarantees, of course.
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2LT Project Manager (Military)
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2LT (Join to see) - Thanks man and do you mean totally approved or just onto the next step in the process>
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2LT Field Artillery Officer
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2LT (Join to see) - No Problem. They made it seem like that would be the final approval. Supposedly Scroll L02-20 was next in line, whatever that means. I'm hoping the scroll will just jump to OSD with the next update or two.
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