Posted on Sep 8, 2016
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Can anyone tell me why the process takes so long for RC officer/warrant promotions to run through the FedRec cycle? I'm an ARNG officer and I've had my state promotion orders for CPT since the middle of April. I've been tracking my packet on the ARNG-G1 website and it was awaiting addition to a scroll until a month ago and last week the scroll was ready to start the approval DoD cycle. Thoughts?
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As of 3 MAY 2019:

L02-19 - Adverse Screening
PL06-19 - Office of the Secretary of Defense
PL07-19 - Office of the Secretary of Defense
PL08-19 - Office of the Secretary of Defense
PL09-19 - Office of the Secretary of Defense
PL10-19 - Office of the Secretary of Defense
PL11-19 - Adverse Screening
PL12-19 - Adverse Screening
PL13-19 - Adverse Screening
PL14-19 - Adverse Screening
SL03-19 - Adverse Screening
SL04-19 - Adverse Screening
U06-19 - ASA (M&RA)
U07-19 - ASA (M&RA)
U08-19 - ASA (M&RA)
U(d)9-19 - Adverse Screening
U10-19 - Adverse Screening
U11-19 - OTJAG
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It seems like the scroll process is getting faster once you are on one. NGB took 4 months to get me on a scroll.
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MAJ Team Leader
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CW3 (Join to see) - Where are you getting the updates? Can you post another one?
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MAJ (Join to see) - Ma'am, I get them from a Senior Warrant in my state or an email message, but I haven't seen anything since the 13 May update.
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CW3 (Join to see) - Can you post another update?
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Update per 09 APR:
L02-19 - JAG
P05-19 - OSD (BOO)
P05-19 thru P08-19 - Adverse Screening
P09-19 thru P12-19 - JAG
S03-19/SL04-19 - Jag
U03-19/U04-19 - Orders published (congrats!)
U06-19 - Advserse Screening
U07-19/U08-19 - JAG
U(d)9-19 - Jag
U10-19 - JAG
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The updates above just means you are complete with that process. As you both note, yours says awaiting, so yours is in between offices.
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CPT(P) (Join to see) it made me happy to see that it had updated when I looked at it today.
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Sure are a lot of scrolls at JAG
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Do you have an update?
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As of 14 Dec 18

L04-18 – OSD
L01-19 - OTJAG
PL12-18 - Check iPerms for Orders <----update
PL13-18 - OSD <----update
PL14-18 - CSA
PL15-18 - CSA
PL01-19 - CSA <---update
PL02-19 - Adverse Screening <--- update
PL03-19 - Adverse Screening <--- update
SL06-18 - CSA
SL01-19 - CSA
SL01-19 - DMPM
U(d) 11-18 - Check iPerms for Orders <----update
U(d) 15-18 - OSD
U12-18 - CSA
U13-18 - CSA
U14-18 - CSA
U01-19 - OTJAG
U02-19 - OTJAG
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Thank you so much for posting this!
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U(d) 11-18 - Check iPerms for Orders <----update that is what I was waiting for thank you so much Chief.
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P12-18 orders were published on 14 December.
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D11-18 Published 14 December as well.
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Sorry its been so long. Combination of a couple different factors....
For some reason, the status of D16-17 dropped off my report.
Next week, or whenever I do the next one, I'll drop off all the approved lists but wanted to get a snapshot in time up here.
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That would be great! Currently pre-mobing so I'll be in theater when that happens and looking forward to it!
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Any word on when a newer update will be made available? Thanks!
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CW5 (Join to see) Do you have any more recent updates?
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Sorry, I havent forgot!
No updates in a while. I hadnt realized it had been so long. I'll see if I can nudge for another....
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U01-18 posted, DOR is 1 Jun.
187 days plus about 4 months before 'day 0'
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Conrats!!!! Appreciate your support on this blog!
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Glad to see so many scrolls published this week. I hope this is the new trend moving forward.
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Chief,
Was wondering, usually Warrant scrolls go pretty quick through the process but I have been noticing that all the P0-18 scrolls have been going through super fast compared to the Warrants? P04, P05, P06, P07 are all I believe at the SecDef already. I am on scroll U04-18 and still sitting at (Awaiting Off of Dir of Mil Pers Mgmt) Just some thoughts.
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I have been watching U04, have a couple of people in my Bde on it. I really dont think there is any hard effort at making one or the other faster. I think it is mostly based on the number of people on a scroll, and just when it hits the desk. U04 is a little exceptional as it has 112 on the scroll, vs 63 on U01 and 77 on U02.
The good news is that at least on my report from NGB CCWO, there was not a U03. I dont know why, maybe it just get left off the list I got back in Jan, but it may well be you guys are next, and its just the size of the list thats taking a little extra time...
Good news is DPRO is showing U04 at DMPM about 32 days. U01 was there about 31, 10 days at SecArmy and 52 at OSD. Although, dont go exactly by those numbers. I firmly believe that scrolls are processed in each office on a schedule, rather than as they arrive. That means they may get done, for example "every other Friday" or something, and it just matters when yours hits in that cycle. It could be 2 days if it arrives at the last minute, or 2 weeks, if it comes right after the cutoff.
Pentagon offices LIVE on routine. There's way too much going on to just drop everything. When I was at G2, we had to have read-aheads in something like a week or two ahead. What I hated was that usually what I was briefing had totally changed in the time between the read-ahead and the meeting (especially because the meeting usually got pushed back a few days). But, I learned to live with it.
I'm not implying it was chaos. Only saying its the way people handle things. 3 & 4-star signatures require a lot of work! More than any Reservist can usually imagine, if they haven't done a staff tour.
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As of 22 May...
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MAJ (Join to see) - Congrats again!! Well deserved. Did P11-17 gain the longest scroll count crown, or does P10-17 still own it? :)
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CPT (Join to see) - No, unfortunately, P11 only got to 330 days so you guys still own the title of the most highly vetted officers in the history of the Army FEDREC system.
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MAJ (Join to see) - It's a dubious honor...I'd say with just 3 days in between, we're tied. ;)
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MAJ (Join to see) - HA!! Can I put that on an OER bullet????
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Until this issue receives media and congressional scrutiny, in my opinion there will be no improvements to the efficiency of this process. Bottom line -- it's not broke but it is barely functioning with significant bottlenecks throughout the process which in many cases renders the DA Board process a viable option when it otherwise would not be. Just my personal observation.
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Anyone have a pub or reference for this process?
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Here's another issue to this lengthy and idiotic process. I'm currently sitting on scroll D16-17 and am now at 210 days as of today for promotion to CW2. For me, I get my DOR backdated and the difference in pay. For CW3's and up, they don't have that luxury. So, those folks now have to stay in for another year to get the full benefits of retirement at that rank (if they choose to). One of my fellow Warrants in my unit was looking to retire out of the Guard and had plans set up once he picked up CW3. He now has to put those plans off for another year or more just because of the scroll taking as long as it is. Not only is this an issue, but morale is also suffering because of it. To make matters worse, the scrolls behind me are at the same point I am in far less time.

I've heard, but cannot find, there is legislation currently in Congress at the sub-committee levels to address this issue. I personally now a CW3 that was on the scroll for over 400 days which is border line criminal! I fully understand that we have Soldiers getting promoted with issues in their past but we're holding up an entire list of people waiting to get promoted because of these people. Why does the Army insist on punishing the masses over the few? That question has always baffled me.
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Only 2 days newer than the last update and still a week behind but some movement on several scrolls.

Please be mindful CURRENT EVENTS ARE IMPACTING THE SCROLLS AT ALL LEVELS!!!!
All scrolls WILL BE PUBLISHED for generation of Promotion Orders AT OUR FIRST OPPORTUNITY!!!!
As of 08 OCT 2020
L02-20 - Office of the SecArmy
L03-20 - Office of the SecArmy
L04-20 - Adverse Actions
PL22-20 - Office of the SecDef
PL23-20 - Office of SecArmy
PL24-20 - Office of SecArmy
PL25-20 - Office of SecArmy
PL26-20 - Office of SecArmy
PL27-20 - Office of SecArmy
PL28-20 - Office of SecArmy
PL29-20 - Office of SecArmy
SL05-20 - Check iPERMS for published order
SL06-20 - Check iPERMS for published order
SL07-20 - Office of SecArmy
SL08-20 - Office of SecArmy
SL09-20 - Adverse Actions
U(d)11-20 - Check iPERMS for published order
U(d)18-20 - Office of SecArmy
U(d)24-20 - OTJAG
U15-20 - Office of SecDef (Yes, the scrolls re out of order)
U17-20 - Office of SecDef
U19-20 - Office of SecDef
U20-20 - Office of SecArmy
U21-20 - Office of SecArmy
U22-20 - Adverse Actions
Thanks for your patience!
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Might be a dumb question, but I cannot find anything telling me what the (d) stands for? anyone know?
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WO1(P) (Join to see) - The (d) refers to W1-W2 promotions. They are scrolls that are not in the same priority category simply because W1-W2 can get backdated orders to the time of eligibility.
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Anyone have any info on scroll U23-20? There seems to be nothing on it, and it has been showing "0" days in the tracker for a while now. Its weird because there seem to be later scrolls already ahead of it (I know they aren't always in order though).
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CW2 John G That is not encouraging. The only thing I know about U23-20 is that on the individual fedrec trackers it still shows 0 days. However it has said that for almost 2 months I believe.
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As of 07 Dec 18

L04-18 – OSD
PL12-18 - OSD
PL13-18 - CSA
PL14-18 - CSA
PL15-18 - CSA
PL01-19 - OTJAG
PL02-19 - OTJAG
SL06-18 - CSA
SL01-19 - OTJAG
U(d) 11-18 - OSD
U(d) 15-18 - OSD
U12-18 - CSA
U13-18 - CSA
U14-18 - CSA
U01-19 - OTJAG
U02-19 - OTJAG
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Anything new as of Today Chief? I heard these were updated every Thursday as long as you receive a status update from the fed rec folks. My scroll has been at OSD for about a month now.
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CW2 (Join to see) - Just checked Andy and still see the last update as 7 Dec 18. I will continue to monitor it.
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MAJ Kahren Aydinyan
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P15-17 PUBLISHED!!
FedRec-Promotion-UV to CPT, MAJ, LT
Description Published: SO# 118; 2018-05-29
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MAJ Kahren Aydinyan - I was on P01-18 and my DOR is May 4 ... so now I out rank folks on earlier scrolls (P15-17) than me ... system is sooo jacked.
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MAJ Kahren Aydinyan
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MAJ (Join to see) - Yes it's super jacked up.
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210 days
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MAJ Kahren Aydinyan
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Here is mine:
Awaiting Secretary of the Army (Day 0 forever)
Awaiting Chief of Staff (Day 0 forever)
Awaiting Off of Judge Advocate General (JAG; around day 141) - took 41 days in this stage
Awaiting Dir of Mil Pers Mgmt (DPMP; around day 182) - took around 33 days in this stage
Secretary of the Army (Day 215) - took around 11 days in this stage
Secretary of Defense (SECDEF) (Day 226 - Day 247) - took around 21 days in this stage - although date of rank was about 7 days prior to publishing.
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