Posted on Sep 27, 2013
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SFC Food Service Specialist
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Keep those Soldiers worthy of being kept. The military's problem in today's military IS the military. I can only speak about the U.S. Army. In too many ways, at many installations, NCO's will turn their heads or claim it is not "their" responsibility to correct a Soldier due to the Soldier not being in their direct chain of command, nor will they get involved and fix something that they see wrong.  Again, because it is not "their" responsibility. Personal feeling here- if YOU outrank the individual, it IS your responsibility. That Soldier IS your Soldier because you outrank them. Also, if you are anything over a Sergeant, it IS your responsibility to get involved and fix something, regardless of where it is or when it is found! If you feel it isn't, then you are in the category of the ones that should NOT be retained, and should be forced out and back to civilian life. A TRUE NCO is one who has no care as to what someone else will think if they make a correction or enforce a standard. Where I am currently stationed, I have personally seen NCO's IN UNIFORM who fail to meet the standards of AR 670-1, regarding haircuts. If you are a Noncommissioned Officer, you should NEVER have a fellow NCO tell you that you need a haircut. If this is you, then YOU are the one letting down the Corps of Noncommissioned Officers. Be the standard bearer- set the example for others to follow. If you can't, or don't think it is YOUR responsibility, then it is time for you to go!!  NOONE promotes me, except for me. I learned that when I was a PV2 in 1987.
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LTC Carmelito  (Sonny) Arkangel
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Cut back significantly on our huge logistical/administrative tail while still maining our capability to respond efficaciously to any significant combat threat.
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PO2 Werner Groezinger
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cut back the Government pay check
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PO2 Werner Groezinger
PO2 Werner Groezinger
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cut back the Government pay check
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PO2 Werner Groezinger
PO2 Werner Groezinger
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I am talking not the little ones I am talking of the politicians
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PO2 Werner Groezinger
PO2 Werner Groezinger
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I am talking not the little ones I am talking of the politicians
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Lt Col Marlon Ruiz
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Downsizing is not a new challenge faced by DoD. However, what we do in the interim, until we weather this latest storm, is to focus on what we have always focused upon - readiness and preparing to engage in and successfully execute our Defense mandate (I.e., fight and win the next war). Toward that end, I would focus current efforts on leadership and force structure.

Many have contributed some great observations and comments; however, where the "rubber meets the road" is our collective ability to meet head on and defeat the enemy, regardless of the engagement scenario. For me, this would mean producing leadership at all levels of command capable of being effective "warrior - statement." Some sectors of our military do this better than others but given the ever-increasing likelihood that our global engagement mission will continue to expand, it would be very prudent to expand upon our expeditionary savvy and capabilities.

If one subscribes to the notion that technology is a very effective "force multiplier" then there is some flexibility when it comes to revising current force structure alternatives that would meet both diminished funding and increased force lethality on the battle field. I believe that technology has proven its worth when it comes to timely response and global reach. Why not invest the effort to further enhance such capabilities across the engagement spectrum of strategic, operational and tactical operations?
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MAJ Stephen Arango
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Focus on developing a serious transitioning program that works with business of every size to reach out to Active service members sooner then later. Address the types of positions in their home states that are attractive or training them in advance of release from active duty.
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LTC Rob Hefner
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We cannot mortgage future capability for today's emotional concerns.

 In other words, our first priority must be retaining if not a technological advantage at least technological parity with the most dangerous COA enemy. We cannot afford to be technologically superior to our most likely adversary (AQ or similar ideologically based actors), we must retain technological parity with the best force in the world that isnt wearing an American flag on their shoulder. This is not advocating technology because it's cool (F35) or technology that is theater specific (MRAP). From my shallow and poorly placed foxhole, this means cyber defense, targeting affects and delivery, and next generation mobility (regarding mobility, can we please get past the turtle mentality induced by IED's - more armor is not always the answer). We may have to accept personnel reductions to fund the technology we will need to be competitive ten or twenty years from now.

Second priority should be retaining the right Soldiers. Not all Soldiers, just the right ones. Military service is just that - service - not a priviliege and not a jobs program. This is much more difficult because it requires individual accountability from everyone who calls themselves leaders. Policies from on high won't change the culture that allows subpar performers to get promoted. Raters and senior raters who sign good evaluations for subpar performers are at fault. Leaders who fail to counsel are forced to sign good evaulations. Yes, people are people and will always seek out the path of least resistance. I expect more than that from leaders in uniform.

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Reversibility and the ability to expand again when needed should be the
focus on this both in terms of personnel, equipment and training. There will
inevitably be another conflict and we will have to expand again, our ability to
do that will be determined by how reversible the changes we make while
downsizing.



When reducing personnel the focus should be on retaining leaders in both the
NCO and Officer ranks as producing those leaders takes a considerable amount of
time. Consideration should be to both low density skills and to the opposite
end of the spectrum to those who have demonstrated that they are more than a
one trick pony (as in a smaller force Soldiers will be expected to become more
generalist and do more things). 1LT Fritz is right in that we need to retain
the right type of people and pay them commiserate to their worth



On the equipping side we must continue to invest in R&D so that we do
not lose technical overmatch, however not necessarily bring every program
through full production. That would mean that we could quickly ramp up
production if needed to fulfill a need in a particular sphere.



Training will necessarily be reduced (and we will return to a tiered
readiness construct to keep some units prepared for contingencies) particularly
in the heavy force but the focus their should be on virtual and constructive
training as we can get them to at least a baseline performance level that could
then be increased through an intensive training rotation if there is a
burgeoning need for heavy forces occurs.



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To address downsizing or 'Rightsizing' we must look at how we recruit and retain. Their is no quick answer but as leaders we must look at the climate we are in. We must forecast the future of warfare and review past conflicts involving our military.

General George Marshall built up the Army from a service of less than 200,000 soldiers before WW2 and after WW2 we had an Army of over 4 million soldiers. His battles with congress and our citizens were tough but he painted a masterpiece in his build up strategy. 

We had a recession at home and a war in Europe and the Pacific. Our service members came back torn apart physically and emotionally scarred. However, our country came together and educated and supported our members back into society. Their was a transition from uniform back to civilian service and it was accomplished by recognizing the strengths of our military and the outstanding training & leadership they received during the war.

When I think of WW2 and how many served not only in uniform but as shipbuilders & weapons and plane builders their is no doubt that the impact of the war was not only felt in the battlefield but at home. This fact is no longer relevant in our country. When countries like Israel fight everyone serves and supports the military. Their service is based on necessity. We have a terrible disconnect from society because instead of watching war progress they are watching reality t.v. and feeling the impact of what is sacrificed by our military.

So to staff all of our military services we need to include our past into our future by creating awareness of what is needed from our citizens to maintain "our great society". We are saturated in media and that is what needs to be our outlet. We are not selling war bonds like we did in the 1940's, we are selling SACRIFICE. 

When we are recruiting new members they need to know that like driving a vehicle, serving is a privilege. Our recruits need to know that our citizens recognize the outstanding training they receive and try to place them in civilian employment once their commitment is up or the needs of the military are changing. 

My buzz word is "REBOUND" and not from a relationship or missed basketball shot. We need a rebound or second chance on how we recruit and determine what is necessary to maintain or services at the highest level for the next 3-5 years. After that period we will need to reassess our manpower and morale again. This is a continuous process that requires constant motion to maintain readiness for our country and to prepare us for our enemy.

My final thought is that every recruit should watch "Band of Brothers" and give a report on what they think of war and sacrifice. We should never forget why we fight.

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LtCol Dann Chesnut
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Reduce the number of Generals.  Those positions at the top need to be pared down proportionally.  This does not seem to happen during draw downs, but there always are increases in the number of Generals when the ranks swell.  It is more important to retain combat and operation vets as a core.  This does not usually happen, with mistakes and lives lost as a result.
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CPT Bill James
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We have 5 more flag officers today than the military did in World War II, clogs the chain of command. Makes mission people subordinate to central staffs.
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If you would like to get better recruits you need to start sooner than we are doing now. Our youth need to know that the military can be a career, that you have to meet the standards to get in and stay in. That you need a good education. We have many high school kids who decide they would like to join the military only to find out, that little trouble they were in is keeping them out, or that they did not think they had to finish school to join. 

The NCAA has learned they have to start educating the 7th graders about grades and studies if they want to play sports in college. So, why is the military not also looking at these young people and educating them on what is needed for a military life after high school or college?
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Train, train, train.  Build the teams which will build pride and espirit de corps.  Leaders take care of your service members.  Soldiers donate to the Army Emergency Relief in the yearly donation drives.  We have seen shutdowns before.  This too shall pass.   
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