Posted on Dec 6, 2013
SPC Sven Pacot
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Should they be made more readily available? Should this be reduced as an option for treatment? Should the VA provide more assistance and education on this alternative?
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LTC Donald (Don) Bachler
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My wife has one, and it makes a huge difference in being able to go out in public, reducing medication, etc.  Unfortunately, the waiting list for one is roughly two years, and the VA does not officially recognize service dogs as a treatment option.


A properly trained one can make a huge difference, but someone who "vests" their pet does more damage to those who need them to function.  There is no national certification for service dogs, and access challenges by business owners because of previous experience with "vesters" can make going in public additionally difficult.  There is a huge difference legally between a "service dog" and an "emotional support animal," bot in training and coverage by the Americans With Disabilities Act.

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SSgt Forensic Meteorological Consultant
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There is a distinction and that is that the ESA cannot go everywhere with you.  They are however covered by the ADA as far as residency is concerned.  If that pet is not an unreasonable request to have then it has rights.   The other side of that is property owners could assert there is another reason why they won't rent to you.


I actually went through this.  As long as you have a letter from your doctor, which I do have.

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Sgt Adam Jennings
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I think this program should be endorsed and used more by the VA and the federal government. I have a close friend that is in desperate need of a service dog for his PTSD but he's sitting on a long waiting list and dealing with the bureaucratic BS that the VA loves to engage in.
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SPC Sven Pacot
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Send him to http://www.k9sforwarriors.org and they will help him out. They might be able to get him in sooner.
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Sgt Adam Jennings
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Thank you SPC Sven Pacot. Very much appreciated.
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CPT Pedro Meza
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http://www.tadsaw.org/
PTSD and mild TBI personal experience, I have noticed both my dog Max and Calico cat Daisy act strange 30 minutes before I have dizzy attacks or blurred visions, or falling attacks, they both bring toys or jump on me. I asked the website above to explain that behavior and was told that both animals are able to sense (smell) the slight chemical changes that my body goes through before an attack hits me. Max and Daisy are trying to teach me to trust them!
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SPC Sven Pacot
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That is exactly correct. Service dogs are amazing and life saving. Since posting this question I have received my own service dog and gained knowledge. Don't fall for the ignorant schemes of quick do it yourself online certifications. They are fraudulent and this causes harm to actual service dog handlers since there is no real requirements. K9s for Warriors (http://www.k9sforwarriors.org) is the organization I would recommend, however there are many organizations to help vets. The biggest veteran service dog organizations is Paws for Warriors if memory serves me correct. Excellent response.
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CPT Pedro Meza
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I encourage all veterans that have dogs or cats to pay attention to them an see if they become hyper or attention seeking minutes before you have an attack of any issues and if you play with them because that will either lesson the attack- symptom or prevent it. Like I said my dog Max and Calico Cat Daisy have taught to play with them and thereby giving me better control. I am considering working with TADSAW so that Max the dog can training me, problems is that with mildTBI, I keep forgetting to take the paper work. As for the Calico Cat Daisy can not use her because she has a habit of rewarding me with gold and silver objects; a real cat burglar.
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CSM Mike Maynard
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The military has a very strict definition of the term "Service Dog" - Service dogs are only for the sight impaired.

Dogs that are used to help Soldiers through PTSD are defined as "Comfort Dogs" or other similar terms, but not "Service Dogs".

You wouldn't think that it is that big of a deal, but the military doesn't actually recognize "Comfort Dogs" officially. They are usually "recommended" by behavior health to help Soldiers.

There are no entitlements or privileges associated with a Soldier who has a "Comfort Dog".

Just had a situation recently where a Soldier showed up with what he said was a "Service Dog", but it was actually a "Comfort Dog".

He was single and not authorized to live off post based on grade and housing occupancy numbers. So, another family in the Bn is "babysitting" his dog for him.

Since the military doesn't "profile" or issue/authorize "Comfort Dogs", HRC wouldn't know that they have one and wouldn't know to take that into consideration when they put them on assignment.

It's kind of jacked up. Since everyone agrees that they are beneficial, there should be something through profiling or EFMP to alert HRC to this so that they can take this into consideration when placing these Soldiers on assignment.
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CPT Pedro Meza
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Studies are being conducted by San Antonio's Humane Society and the VA using adopted dogs, perhaps studies like these will open the door to better recognition of Service Dogs.
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PO2 Terri Myre
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Yes to all of the questions listed. I wish I had a service dog to help deal with my PTSD. Whenever I'm in public where I can have my pet dog with me, I find that I'm able to deal with things better and my anxiety levels aren't as high. He's in tune with me and picks up on my moods. He "talks" to me, nudges me, licks me or leans against me to get my attention and to distract me from whatever is triggering me. My boy also helps to protect my personal bubble and is constantly aware of everything going on around me. There is nothing like having a big, furry, personal protector to hug and hold. I am all for service dogs for vets. They throw too many medications at us and just send us on our way. Four paws and a wagging tail can be great therapy.
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SFC Dr. Joseph Finck, BS, MA, DSS
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SPC Sven Pacot,

I believe this to be a viable and great option for many veterans who survive with PTSD. Many of the VA Behavioral Health treatment professionals support Service Animals for assistance with PTSD. Some do not. There is empirical data in support of this treatment modality.

Thank you for your service and for this post,

SFC Joseph M. Finck SFC USA (Ret)
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SPC Joshua Dawson
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I think that could be a good idea but really why stop at dogs when simply having any sort of "pet" would benefit someone with PTSD. I know you said service dogs but even just simply having a pet to love you and depend on you and always be there could really help sometimes.
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