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Look son 1. There are always bad apples in every group in the world. 2. Your definition as a High school snowflake (no insult) of verbal abuse compared to a hardened Marine will be 1000k apart. Define hazing the same way. Physical abuse should be different but again what means, extreme, etc. DI's are to break you down from a namby-pamby snowflake civilian and rebuild you into a functioning Marine that can live and survive on the battlefield. If screaming that you are a maggot in your face, or dropping you for pushups every time you screw up is going to maim you for life; then what will you do when yo are trying to hold your best friend's guts back in place while under fire? 3. Life is hard, life in the Military is much harder because it can be life or death in a second. If you are serious about serving , you learn to take the good with the bad and solider on.
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PO3 Phyllis Maynard - I blame Iraq, just like I blame Korea and Vietnam on Politicians.
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PO3 Phyllis Maynard
SPC (Join to see) - What did was the protest mantra in the 1960s, "We will not fight another rich man's war". What has the fighting men and women been pulled into this time in at least 3 hot theatres?
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DI have been working recruits hard since the Marines were created. Problem today is society. The recruits are allowed to have a voice in every branch of the military. The military is following society. This is going to become its downfall. Recruits are at Boot Camp to learn how too take orders and keep their mouth shut. They are in many cases being told what to do and how it is going to be done the Marine way and this little boys do not like being told what to do. This is because they have been pampered by the law, parents and media. Every recruit that tries to lodge a complaint should be shown the front gate and told to find their own way home. This will be the only way to stop this. Yes there are and alls has been some DI's that go overboard. They are usually taken care of very quickly and quietly sent else where on a new assignment. I hope the the Marines go back to the old way and return to making men out of boys. We need to remember these men are usually the first ones sent into a fight.
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Unfortunately, "Political Correctness" is entrenched in the American society today. Add to that the kids reaching the age eligible to enlist have had little discipline and physical activity in their developmental years. So many are inherently familiar with all of the popular video games (including lots of "war" video games). When the new recruits arrive at boot camp/basic training, they find they have not signed up for another "video game", but are learning REAL LIFE adventure through arduous physical activity and (OMG) actually taking (and obedience to) ORDERS.
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The fear and reservation you are feeling is natural and it is felt by every recruit who goes to Boot Camp. The Drill Instructors you referenced exceeded their authority and have been punished. Likewise, many of the SNCOs and Officers in their Chain of Command have been punished.
The Marine Corps is not in the business of abusing recruits. We are in the business of winning wars. That means we have to make Marines. The only way to make Marines is through tough rigorous training, stress, and testing to the point of failure. If you don’t know where your failure point is, then you will never know how much more you can accomplish.
Not everyone is cut out to be a Marine. Marine Corps Boot Camp is harder than any other service. You will enter Boot Camp as an individual, a civilian who has been formed and molded by 18 years of social norms and polite societal pleasantries. That will all be stripped away, and you will be rebuilt into a stronger, more disciplined, and focused version of yourself. You will leave Boot Camp as a finely crafted piece of precision military hardware. You will have earned your title as Marine, and you will be one of the most lethal things on the battlefield. The day they put the “Eagle, Globe and Anchor” in your hand and call you Marine for the first time, will stay with you until the day you die.
So, you must now decide if you are just looking for reasons not to go, or if you are serious about accepting the challenge and trying to earn the title Marine. Make no mistake, it WILL be tough. It is meant to be tough. No one will give it to you. No one will cut you one inch of slack. You will earn every single bit of it by yourself. If you succeed, it will be the most valuable, the most treasured thing, you earn for the rest of your life. You will have changed forever.
The question is, are your up to the challenge?
The Marine Corps is not in the business of abusing recruits. We are in the business of winning wars. That means we have to make Marines. The only way to make Marines is through tough rigorous training, stress, and testing to the point of failure. If you don’t know where your failure point is, then you will never know how much more you can accomplish.
Not everyone is cut out to be a Marine. Marine Corps Boot Camp is harder than any other service. You will enter Boot Camp as an individual, a civilian who has been formed and molded by 18 years of social norms and polite societal pleasantries. That will all be stripped away, and you will be rebuilt into a stronger, more disciplined, and focused version of yourself. You will leave Boot Camp as a finely crafted piece of precision military hardware. You will have earned your title as Marine, and you will be one of the most lethal things on the battlefield. The day they put the “Eagle, Globe and Anchor” in your hand and call you Marine for the first time, will stay with you until the day you die.
So, you must now decide if you are just looking for reasons not to go, or if you are serious about accepting the challenge and trying to earn the title Marine. Make no mistake, it WILL be tough. It is meant to be tough. No one will give it to you. No one will cut you one inch of slack. You will earn every single bit of it by yourself. If you succeed, it will be the most valuable, the most treasured thing, you earn for the rest of your life. You will have changed forever.
The question is, are your up to the challenge?
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CSM Charles Hayden
@Col Jim Harmon Well done Colonel. The Corps has more disiciplined success in converting their recruits into Marines in their boot training than the other services have in their basic training.
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