Posted on Jul 18, 2015
Still like Trump after his attack on John McCain?
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John McCain .... I have respect for the guy for serving our country and for what he went through as a POW/MIA but that is where it stops for me. He is a fellow veteran like myself and I haven't seen him do anything to the VA for all those veteran deaths. Not one person has been fired or has had criminal charges put on them. It's a shame. He has all this power and he does nothing with it. Of course this is just one Grunts oppinion!! HOOAH!
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I had a sign in my yard for McCain before his last run for president. (Even kept it up two months after the election) now I'm hearing that his POW Commander stated, that he sung like a canary without any threat or intimidation upon his capture. Those accusations are supposedly backed up by other POW. If that's true then I guess Trump should have validated his comments by tying these facts in with his statement. My dilemma is-so much Bull feces in the news, what's true and what isn't?
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What did Donald Trump said that outraged most vets and most Americans:
He SAID "I like people who weren't captured" implying that there was something wrong or less heroic of Shot Down US Airmen who somehow did not avoid capture and became POWs. Sgt Kristin Wiley you are also willfully ignoring the voice inflection and sarcasm that dripped from his lips when he said " "He's a war hero because he was captured," Trump said during an appearance at the Family Leadership Summit in Ames, Iowa, on Saturday. "I like people who weren't captured."" and THAT and the context and his voice inflection and obvious sarcasm, is what cast an aspersion and a slur on ALL of the Captured POWs, not just John McCain. Sgt Wiley you continue to ignore that these stupid remarks came from someone who weaseled his way out of the Vietnam Draft with three applied for and successful deferments from the draft. He has compounded that ignoble history by repeating his lies about how he avoided service in the Vietnam Draft by saying that he avoided getting drafted because his lottery number was high (and that is why his draft number was not chosen for the draft lottery), rather than the three draft deferments he applied for and received. He has also stated that he did not support or believe in the Vietnam war, which is fine, UNTIL you start making scurrilous remarks about a Vietnam decorated war hero while you are running for President (allegedly). His remarks as they apply specifically to John McCain are even more outrageous, when you consider how John McCain was captured. When he ejected he broke both legs and an Arm, (after being in an inverted flat spin in his A-4 -remember that is what was portrayed in the movie Top Gun-it is one of the hardest and most difficult positions to maneuver out of in a jet plane, impossible if your plane is on fire and just had a wing blown off from a SAM Missile the size of a light pole) then he landed in the middle of a lake, unconscious at first, badly wounded as described above. You are a parachute qualified, right, you tell me how easy it is to get out of Vietnam Era Parachute after a water landing, in that kind of physical condition and evade capture? That is also part of my anger at the stupid slander that you keep calling "opinion" that Donald Trump uttered from his mouth. This is personal to me and my family. My step-father whom I love despite his detestable politics, got his draft deferrals to complete his Bachelor's degree and his teaching credential, and then despite being STRONGLY against the Vietnam War reported for duty in the US Army pursuant to his draft notice, and served his two year commitment (66-68), getting his honorable discharge two year later. He has told me everyone in his Basic Training and AIT class went to Vietnam except the three college grads in his class who were held back for OCS. So when I think of this and how John McCain was captured, what he did as a POW, what he did before he was shot down, and the INCREDIBLE SUFFERING, that captured POWs endured, his remarks are not "merely someone's opinion," as you stubbornly keep repeating. They are outrageous and insulting to many vets, myself included, the Men who accepted their draft notices and served during the Vietnam War, while Trump Partied and made money in New York City, and now has the stones to ask people to take him seriously and actually vote for this clown.
He SAID "I like people who weren't captured" implying that there was something wrong or less heroic of Shot Down US Airmen who somehow did not avoid capture and became POWs. Sgt Kristin Wiley you are also willfully ignoring the voice inflection and sarcasm that dripped from his lips when he said " "He's a war hero because he was captured," Trump said during an appearance at the Family Leadership Summit in Ames, Iowa, on Saturday. "I like people who weren't captured."" and THAT and the context and his voice inflection and obvious sarcasm, is what cast an aspersion and a slur on ALL of the Captured POWs, not just John McCain. Sgt Wiley you continue to ignore that these stupid remarks came from someone who weaseled his way out of the Vietnam Draft with three applied for and successful deferments from the draft. He has compounded that ignoble history by repeating his lies about how he avoided service in the Vietnam Draft by saying that he avoided getting drafted because his lottery number was high (and that is why his draft number was not chosen for the draft lottery), rather than the three draft deferments he applied for and received. He has also stated that he did not support or believe in the Vietnam war, which is fine, UNTIL you start making scurrilous remarks about a Vietnam decorated war hero while you are running for President (allegedly). His remarks as they apply specifically to John McCain are even more outrageous, when you consider how John McCain was captured. When he ejected he broke both legs and an Arm, (after being in an inverted flat spin in his A-4 -remember that is what was portrayed in the movie Top Gun-it is one of the hardest and most difficult positions to maneuver out of in a jet plane, impossible if your plane is on fire and just had a wing blown off from a SAM Missile the size of a light pole) then he landed in the middle of a lake, unconscious at first, badly wounded as described above. You are a parachute qualified, right, you tell me how easy it is to get out of Vietnam Era Parachute after a water landing, in that kind of physical condition and evade capture? That is also part of my anger at the stupid slander that you keep calling "opinion" that Donald Trump uttered from his mouth. This is personal to me and my family. My step-father whom I love despite his detestable politics, got his draft deferrals to complete his Bachelor's degree and his teaching credential, and then despite being STRONGLY against the Vietnam War reported for duty in the US Army pursuant to his draft notice, and served his two year commitment (66-68), getting his honorable discharge two year later. He has told me everyone in his Basic Training and AIT class went to Vietnam except the three college grads in his class who were held back for OCS. So when I think of this and how John McCain was captured, what he did as a POW, what he did before he was shot down, and the INCREDIBLE SUFFERING, that captured POWs endured, his remarks are not "merely someone's opinion," as you stubbornly keep repeating. They are outrageous and insulting to many vets, myself included, the Men who accepted their draft notices and served during the Vietnam War, while Trump Partied and made money in New York City, and now has the stones to ask people to take him seriously and actually vote for this clown.
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Trump is correct about MCCain's political record - he is a true RINO - not a conservative, more like a liberal. We don't need people like him in our government. A career politician on the public dole. Not what our founding fathers envisioned.
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My step-father, a liberal Democrat socialist, who's politics I loath and despise, ran out of his college deferments in 1967 after getting his college degree and teaching credential, accepted his draft notice, and instead of trying to hideout in college or find some other way like DONALD TRUMP TO WEASEL OUT OF THE VIETNAM ERA DRAFT, and reported to Basic training in the US Army at Fort Kit Carson Colorado. He tells me that of his Army basic training Class EVERYONE WENT TO VIETNAM, except the three college grads who were held back for OCS. SO YES IT IS PERSONAL TO ME. When Donald the Draft Dodger makes Scurrilous remarks about John McCains's service to this country in a lousy war, that People like my Step-father did not support, but still went into the US Military when their Draft Notice came in the mail.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/07/20/what-donald-trump-was-up-to-while-john-mccain-was-suffering-as-a-prisoner-of-war/?tid=sm_fb
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/07/20/what-donald-trump-was-up-to-while-john-mccain-was-suffering-as-a-prisoner-of-war/?tid=sm_fb
What Donald Trump was up to while John McCain was a prisoner of war
As McCain languished in prison, Trump was partying it up in Manhattan.
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John McCain Says Donald Trump Owes Veterans an Apology
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SGT Kristin Wiley
Really, when did Donald Trump direct his words towards anyone other than John McCain? He was not directing them at Veterans, he was directing them at one man who has held office for 30 years and done little to support Veterans. Donald Trump doesn't owe Veterans an apology because some Americans believe he insulted one Veteran (singular, one). Are you really so sensitive to the actions of others that you think you deserve an apology?
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Capt Lance Gallardo
He SAID "I like people who weren't captured" implying that there was something wrong or less heroic of Shot Down US Airmen who somehow did not avoid capture and became POWs. You are are also willfully ignoring the voice inflection and sarcasm that dripped from his lips when he said " "He's a war hero because he was captured," Trump said during an appearance at the Family Leadership Summit in Ames, Iowa, on Saturday. "I like people who weren't captured."" and THAT and the context and his voice inflection and obvious sarcasm, is what cast an aspersion and slur on ALL of the Captured POWs, not just John McCain. You continue to ignore that these stupid remarks came from someone who weaseled his way out of the Vietnam Draft with three applied for and successful deferments form the draft. He has compounded that ignoble history by repeating his lies about how he avoided service in the Vietnam Draft by saying that he avoided getting drafted because his lottery number was high (and that is why his draft number was not chosen for the draft lottery), rather than the three draft deferments he applied for and received. He has also stated that he did not support or believe in the Vietnam war, which is fine, UNTIL you start making scurrilous remarks about a Vietnam decorated war hero while you are running for President (allegedly). His remarks as they apply specifically to John McCain are even more outrageous, when you consider how John McCain was captured. When he ejected he broke both legs and an Arm, (after being in an inverted flat spin in his A-4 -remember that is what was portrayed in the movie Top Gun-it is one of the hardest and most difficult positions to maneuver out of in a jet plane, impossible if your plane is on fire and just had a wing blown off from a Sam Missle the size of a light pole) then he landed in the middle of a lake, unconscious at first, badly wounded as described above. You are a parachute qualified, right, you tell me how easy it is to get out of Vietnam Era Parachute after a water landing, in that kind of physical condition and evade capture? That is also part of my anger at the stupid slander that you keep calling "opinion" that Donald Trump uttered from his mouth. This is personal to me and my family. My step-father whom I love despite his detestable politics, got his draft deferrals to complete his Bachelor's degree and his teaching credential, and then despite being STRONGLY against the Vietnam War reported for duty in the US Army pursuant to his draft notice, and served his two year commitment (66-68), getting his honorable discharge two year later. He has told me everyone in his Basic Training and AIT class went to Vietnam except the three college grads in his class who were held back for OCS. So when I think of this and how John McCain was captured, what he did as a POW, what he did before he was shot down, and the INCREDIBLE SUFFERING, that captured POWs endured, his remarks are not "merely someone's opinion," as you stubbornly keep repeating. They are outrageous and insulting to many vets, myself included, the Men who accepted their draft notices and served during the Vietnam War, while Trump Partied and made money in New York City, and know has the stones to ask people to take him seriously and actually vote for this clown.
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