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Posted on Jul 29, 2018
SGT Joseph Gunderson
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CPT Jack Durish
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I have often thought that I would have made so much more, gotten so much more, out of my college education had I served first. I was a very immature 17-year old when I entered college and frittered my time away, passing well enough on a minimum of effort. How much better might I have done if I had served first and matured. Well, to be fair, if I had served first, I most likely would never have earned rank and most likely would have been in trouble most of the time. Then, going to college later, had I matured, would have been in trouble in school among a bunch of immature 17-18 year olds as immature as I was at that age.
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PO2 Tim Hawks
PO2 Tim Hawks
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CPT Robert Boshears - I knew a lot of guys I served with that had that same problem....lol
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SFC John Stroud
SFC John Stroud
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I had a chance to start at the Citadel in S.C. and the hazing at the time taught me one thing, I didn't think I was officer correct. I started in August of 1973 with graduation in 1977. However my standard was not going to be met at the Citadel. There is a lot more to the story but that does not need to be told. A couple of years later I joined the SCARNG and became a medic. In 1976 I went active Army, then 91 C (LPN) and 14 years active until physical issue that separated me from the Army before Gulf War One. However, during service and shortly after in 1992 I graduated with a Associate in Management and a B.S. in Business. In 1973 I was not into education. However, in 1992 I finished my degrees with a total of 9 Colleges, Army LPN School, and 20 years after High School graduation. My father never thought I would graduate, I did and he saw it right before he died in 1993. My father was a WW2 Army Veteran and a 30 year SCARNG career retiring as a LTC. He started as a private, hit all NCO grades and all Officer grades to LTC. Colonel. I started as a Private and reached the rank of SFC (E7). I almost got it, but at least I graduated College before my Dad died. RIP Dad.
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SPC Chris Ison
SPC Chris Ison
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LTC John R. - He may have had a confidence problem that the Army solved for him too.
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Sgt Commander, Dav Chapter #90
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I graduated from high school a 17 and had to go to a 4-year college... I went to Stonehill College for just shy of two semesters. I hate it! Why, you ask. I always liked technology when I was growing up... My father just wanted me to get a 4-Yr degree... I wanted to go to Wentworth Institute in Boston for an Associate Degree so I could see if that was what I wanted to pursue... My Dad wouldn't have it... So, I quit Stonehill College and within a month of quitting, I took tests for the 4 military branches I was interested in... The Air Force offered the best schooling opportunity. I announced what I wanted to do at dinner one night and said right then that my mind was made up and that my parents could either sign for me then or I was gone when I turned 18. Off I went to AF boot camp in San Antonio, TX... I graduated Tech school and was assigned to Otis AFB, MA as an Airborne Navigation Systems Tech and the rest is history... I went on to Northeastern University Nights after my enlistment was finished and completed an Associate Degree in Electronic Engineering Technology and then a bachelor’s degree in industrial technology. By then I had five children and the thoughts of more school was halted. I have had a great Professional career. I am 76 now and retired... Volunteer with the VA and am Commander of DAV Chapter #90, Norwood, MA.
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SGT Tony Clifford
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This is true to some extent. I worked a 22 hr/ week job and had 16 semester hours of classes. Even with my energy being so diffused, I only needed to put forth real effort in a handful of my classes (calculus, structural geology, sedimentology, petrology). The majority of my classes especially the general education classes were a cakewalk. Only in the science and math classes were there any challenges. The worst part is that many of the general education classes were just indoctrination. I was expected to express an opinion that was in line with the professor's view point. If I varied even slightly, I was openly mocked in class by my professors. Thus, I gave them the answers to questions of politics that they wanted to hear. This did even infect some of the science classes. In particular my water resources class. The professor point blank ask me if I voted for Trump, when she found out I was former military. I told her, "Not that it's any of your business, but no, I voted Libertarian. " She would regularly say that humanity was too large and espoused the myth about the population bomb. Even when I mentioned that the book she was referencing was written in the 70s and stated that the carrying capacity was 6 billion and the current population is nearly 8 billion with no global famine, she smugly continued to go on her rant. That's the real problem with higher education. We have an echo chamber forming. These people locked in their ivory towers no longer even consider that their ideas should be challenged.
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Yeah, I had an anthropology professor who started ranting about the "1%" and made the "point" that the 1% were Wall Street billionaires. I then pointed out that if you took all the billionaires, or even millionaires, in the world it would amount to far less than 1% of the world population, and that anyone in the middle class in the U.S. was part of the global 1%. She asked me what study that was based on. I told her: "Simple math. If there are 7.5 billion people on the planet, one percent of that is 75 million people."

I then referred her to a study that showed that almost 50 million of the top 75 million incomes in the world are in the United States, including anyone making 30,000 dollars a year or more. I then concluded by saying "Most everyone in this room is part of the 1% on the global level, and those who aren't are still in the top 5% unless they're living on the street."
The professor just gave me a blank look and said. "No, the top 1% are all billionaires." I replied: "Even though there are less than 500 billionaires on the planet, and 1% of the population equals 75 million people?" She asks me: "What's your source for there being less than 500 billionaires?" I tell her that on the Forbes 500, not everyone is quite at the billionaire level, having net worth in the hundreds of millions instead. She frowned, repeated her assertion that the top 1% were all billionaires (as though repeating it would somehow make it true), and then continued the "lecture" quickly, obviously wanting to avoid any more pesky facts.
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SGT Tony Clifford
SGT Tony Clifford
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PO3 Craig Phillips you realize that I have a B.S. in Geology, not liberal arts, right? I agree that those degrees have little utility and cost way too much for what they give you.
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SPC Chris Ison
SPC Chris Ison
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The only time i was "mocked" and it was not even mocking was in my senior year. We had a management seminar where we were to create a business plan for a fictional business. Create a marketing plan, financing, etc.

This was in 2000, and the internet was just becoming a part of our every day life. I suggest an internet cafe, for gaming. The group went with it, and when it came time to set pricing and establish a finance model, the question of "how much do you charge for internet" came up. My opinion was nothing, you give it away for free, it is the hook that brings in the customer. I based this off the idea that the first, and best taste of an illicit drug is given away free to get the customer hooked, then when they are regular customer you give them shit drugs and keep them on the line for more.

we argued, and everyone got pissy. I was given a "C" for the class because my group did not like me, and thought i was a "commie."

Tell me now though, where do you pay for internet besides your home?

Part of being a good student is being willing to challenge your professor, and everyone of you who said you had to tow the line, i think missed an opportunity to be a challenge to yourself but voicing your own opinion. Seems like a lack of moral courage.

Plato said the best student is the student that disagrees with you, and is willing to challenge you.
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MAJ Ken Landgren
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Congratulations on your endeavor to earn a degree. I went to college in the 90s and had to work hard to maintain a B average while I worked part time. Now participation equals passing grades? What is your major in and what was your MOS?
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CSM Charles Hayden
CSM Charles Hayden
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SGT Joseph Gunderson Please appreciate your - “no need to be employed” status!
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SGT Joseph Gunderson
SGT Joseph Gunderson
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CSM Charles Hayden - no need to be employed for the moment, no. I did a job - just like most of us here - and earned a contractual obligation for the VA to pay for my education as well as a housing stipend. Compound my Education benefits with my Disability rating and I am able to focus full-time on school.
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CSM Charles Hayden
CSM Charles Hayden
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SGT Joseph Gunderson What a great example of living w/in your means!

Striving to achieve a goal/goals is often more personally rewarding than having achieved those goals.

Still, it is important to strive, appreciate having succeeded and to establish new goals.

Appreciation is difficult for many.
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SPC Chris Ison
SPC Chris Ison
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MAJ Ken Landgren - Yes you are correct on that; But they do not favor people of color, they favor white people. That is the inherent racial bias of a standardized test.

If you have never had your own bed, or bedroom, you may, in your mind, think subconsciously that a couch and a bed are the same thing. So when someone puts up a picture of a bed, a couch, a love seat, and a chair(Lazy Boy), one might pick the chair as the "odd one out", when it is supposed to be the bed. because in that mind bed = couch = love seat, and in WHITE PEOPLES MINDS Bed = Bedroom and Couch, Love Seat, and Lazy Boy = Living Room.

The new weighting system, as i said, is designed to allow colleges to understand a deeper history of the student. It would include information like household income and if the person was a parent, etc so that one could say something like:

Yeah this person is only a 3.7 GPA, but they also missed two years of school because they were sick with cancer. And THAT is worth more than any student without cancer, hell even a 2.0 from a hospital bed is better than a 4.0 at a school where 60% of the seniors are getting A's.

That is why it is called The ADVERSITY SCORE.

You don't have to be black to get a high score on this, you just have to have adversity in your life.
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