Posted on Jan 4, 2014
CSM Command Sergeant Major
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What are your feelings on this? I personally disagree with the decision as Soldiers may use this as the first option, I normally would sit a Soldier down and discuss the situation and see if we can find a resolution. I agree that the AER program is a great system as it assists Soldiers in the time of need, but as a leader I would like to know before a Soldier goes and applies for the loan.<div><br></div><div><br></div>
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Regardless if we like it or not it's still a lot better than soldiers running to Omni or Pioneer and getting a 29.99% loan. I think if vetted properly though a unit's command financial specialist to ensure the soldier asking for the AER loan isn't stretching themselves thinner by applying, then who cares who signs the approval to help the trooper out.&nbsp;
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SFC Robert Trodahl
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I still see the need for the C.O.C to be informed.  They are responsible for him/her on and off duty and to assist where they can.
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SFC Anabel Cepero
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SFC Trodahl,

I agree with you 100%, the COC should always be aware of what is going on with their Soldiers. I understand that they are trying to give NCOs more freedom and show that they trust them. But unfortunately not everyone can meet live up to that standard. I also think that sometimes an AER loan isn't always the answer and that's one of many ways the COC can help. 
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SSG Military Intelligence Systems Maintainer/Integrator
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If the C.O.C wants to stay be involved then set up classes through ACS to teach everyone how to be more responsible. Not every leader is an expert at budgeting or how not to get ripped off at a dealership and not everyone was taught why a budget is so important to financial success. To stay involved means being proactive. SSG Cepero, you are correct about it not being the answer but if your not good at staying out of debt and saving money how can you lead your Soldiers to do the same. This change is not something that is taken away from the command. It gives the Soldier the ability to handle their business without everyone being in it. Some Soldiers do need this kind of training while others figure it out on there own.
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Bottom line on this one, it isn't about and shouldn't spark an investigation for an NCO who might need some extra help! &nbsp;As already mentioned, it will occur with or without AER via some high percentage payday loan org. However, the total Soldier Concept comes into play in that leaders who are engaged know what is going on within their ranks so it shouldn't be a surprise when someone has an emergency. &nbsp;It is a request form that requires a simple signature of approval, much like the HHT or HHQ Company Commander signing the BN or BDE Commander's leave form! &nbsp;Checks and Balances need to occur to keep the honest brokers honest! &nbsp;It is not a bad thing to have someone approve a form, heck it might even be that your Commander may have alternate methods of helping resolve the issue with other resources! &nbsp;<div><br></div><div>On the flip side , I wouldn't find this alarming for NCOs above Sergeant First Class to conduct business on their own if it is approved for them to do so! &nbsp;We need to trust and build our NCO Corps up as responsible professionals! &nbsp;I certainly don't counsel Senior NCOs/Junior Officers the same as I would someone that has not earned the same level of responsibility! &nbsp;So I wouldn't expect my supervisor to care much about my financial situation so long as it doesn't interfere with my mission or responsibilities! &nbsp;However, I still have to submit my LES with my leave form which is another check and balance! &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>As a former company commander, I had an NCO who wanted to cut corners and began formulating their own memorandums with their signature block to process Soldiers through certain installation procedures or clearing without orders, etc! &nbsp;I found out when I began receiving phone calls from all over the installation! &nbsp;So it goes to show that abuse can exist if there are not proper systems in place to prevent it from occurring! &nbsp;</div>
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