Posted on May 1, 2014
SSG Robert Burns
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If the crime was treated as treason, would this help to deter perpetrators because of the punishment?
trea·son

1. the offense of acting to overthrow one's government or to harm or kill its sovereign.

2. a violation of allegiance to one's sovereign or to one's state.

3. the betrayal of a trust or confidence; breach of faith; treachery.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/01/politics/military-sex-assault/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
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1LT Scout Platoon Leader
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This question is leaning towards "the ends justifies the means." Sexual assault is evil, and should be punished as such. Its not treason and I'm tired of SHARP taking precedence over training for war. I think we've reached a "T" in SHARP... seriously.
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SGM Operations Sergeant Major
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Increase in reporting is not necessarily a bad thing. It does not always mean that sexual assaults are happening more frequently in the present but rather more Soldiers are coming forward and reporting older incidences. A lot of the incidences could have happened in the past maybe even before entrance into military service. With the focus on sexual assault, victims now feel more comfortable reporting versus in past when SA was a low priority and the perps were only gettings slaps on the wrist if punished at all.
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MSG Wade Huffman
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Very good points 1SG,
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MAJ Steve Sheridan
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Sexual Assault it really bad, but I don't see it on the same level as Treason.

There should be 0 tolerance.

We should prosecute to the full extent of the law.
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Reports of Sexaul Assault jumps 50%. Should Sexual Assault be treated as a crime of Treason?
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MAJ Company Commander
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I've seen similar posts recently but have not read the actual study. The Army's SHARP program encourages reporting. If we are saying that reports have gone up 50% then this is a success story. No matter how we look at it, this is a touchy subject. Due to the limited number of reporting it will be a long time before we can find a correlation. We all know and have heard the stories of those who report and are not supported properly. The Army has a system and is doing a better job than ever in working the system. Try and imagine our Army today if there were no VA's, SHARP reps, and no training for Soldiers. I am not happy with where we are now but I am proud where we are going and I will do my best as a leader to support those needing support and educate those ignorant to the harassment they might be causing.
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SFC Stephen Hester
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Sexual Assault is a violent crime and should be dealt with appropriately. ZERO TOLERANCE.
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SFC MLRS/HIMARS Crewmember
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Enforcement, enforcement, enforcement.

Sexual assault is toxic to the very fabric of our organization. I cannot express how angry this makes me, that soldiers enlist to serve their nation and are betrayed by their own brothers and sisters. In a way it is treasonous, and it's definitely not handled as well as it should be.
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SFC William Farrell
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The only way to deal with effectively SSG Robert Burns is to take away the commander's prerogative to prosecute, hand it to an independent authority and prosecute the scums bags vigorously. They don't belong in my military!
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LCpl Matt P.
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changing the label wont change its frequency, swift prolonged and violent responses to its perpetration will set a standard no individual will be willing to risk having to endure.
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It's an attack on your brothers and sisters, your family. It's poisoning your home, your air and water. We belong to a Department of the U.S. Government. We are, as an organization, a state, for we are our own community. Victims and on-lookers lose trust and confidence in their peers and superiors when these acts occur. It is 100% treason and should be treated as such, regardless of how it affects the number of future occurrences.
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PO1 Joseph Feldhaus
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By that reasoning, every crime by a military member against another is treason.
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SGT 25 L/U Instructor
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By definition, yes. However, treason as a punishment is for extreme cases. I would more easily forgive a soldier for stealing $20 from me, than physically assaulting me. Sexual or not in nature, it is a physical attack on your own.
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SGT (Join to see) - trea·son
1. the offense of acting to overthrow one's government or to harm or kill its sovereign
2. a violation of allegiance to one's sovereign or to one's state
3. the betrayal of a trust or confidence; breach of faith; treachery
What about burning the American flag? False official statements? Misusing the American flag? Sexual politics in the work place? Drunk driving? Drunk on duty? If that window is widened, then most crimes would fall into treason. There is a very good reason why it takes so long to come up with legal definitions of crimes. If we allow emotions to control our judgment, we will turn back our progress.
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I understand that you are making a referance to the last definition of the word treason, and yes it does "technically" fit, but the intent of the crime of treason would be an act against the government itself. I do not feel that it fits the intent of the law. I also do not thing that calling it treason would have any effect on how many sexual assaults happen. What I think would help reduce the number of sexual assaults is more people reporting it (it has the lowest report rate of any crime) AND soldiers being convicted of the crime more (if at all possible). I also think the command of the convicted soldier should be held accountable to some degree (possibly a letter of reprimand or something to that effect). I say this only because as leaders the welfare of our soldiers is paramount, and if we cannot either prevent our soldiers from being victims or being assailants then we are not doing the best we can.
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